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The real problem is not as a weight loss drug, but as a way to regulate diabetes. My girlfriend is on it, because the other medications don't work outside of i
by kemiller2002 4y ago
The real problem is not as a weight loss drug, but as a way to regulate diabetes. My girlfriend is on it, because the other medications don't work outside of insulin which has it's own difficulties. The sudden raise in price and her insurance refusing to pay for it means she either has to do it out of pocket or try and switch to something else which may or may not work.
The real problem with using it as a weight loss is that it doesn't solve the underlying problem. Mounjaro makes it so that you can't eat. Eat too much and you get sick (seriously like 2 bites and you're done eating). Overeating is a psychological problem. The drug doesn't fix you wanting the food, it just makes it so that you can't eat it. Take the barrier away, and you're back to where you started.
- diordiderot 4y ago> The drug doesn't fix you wanting the food Shouldn't it _eventually_ have a pavlovian effect where you associate all food with nausea?
- cjbgkagh 4y agoIt seems strongly linked and such links are quickly extinguished. If there is a delay and randomness on getting sick it’ll be weakly linked and more durable.
- ilikecakeandpie 4y agoIt doesn't really work like that. The way it was explained to me, it slows your digestion down so you feel/are fuller for longer. It took a lot less for me to be satiated and effectively eliminated any kind of binge eating, but it wasn't because it made me nauseous; I just felt full. Once I got off the drug, I started eating more again. There are side effects, especially initially with loose stool and some nausea, but generally they don't last. I'm sure they persist with some but that's effectively every medication. The goal isn't to change the relationship with food where it makes one physically ill when seeing or eating food EDIT: My experience is with Ozempic, not Mounjaro. They may work differently
- drewbug01 4y ago> Eat too much and you get sick (seriously like 2 bites and you're done eating). While I’ve know some people experience more severe GI issues or nausea with the drug, this is quite the exaggeration. A drug that made it difficult or impossible to actually consume enough food to survive (more than “two bites”) would be wildly unsafe to prescribe.
- hungryforcodes 4y agoNot at all short term. This is EXACTLY what fasting is. In fact a pill you could take in the morning that would suppress your appetite for 24 hours would be fantastic. You could use it three days a week with no ill effects and loose weight.
- drewbug01 4y agoTrue. The comment I was replying to was talking about Mounjaro, which is a weekly injectable - and thus no way to do it for only three days a week. In that context, if Mounjaro made it impossible to eat to the degree the commenter described, it would be wildly unsafe (because of how long each shot lasts).
- LazyMans 4y agoThe first three days were like this.
- me-vs-cat 4y agoThis is not an exaggeration for my wife. For a full day after taking her weekly shot, she eats about 2 bites per meal.
- briffle 4y ago>Overeating is a psychological problem. Many would argue that drugs like this and Ozempic are showing that overeating is more of a hormone problem then a psychological problem.
- bedast 4y agoIf she has insurance and a diabetes diagnosis, the coupon should apply. The coupon is still there. I use it.