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Extremely cool and useful map! Night trains fill an important travel niche in terms of distance/comfort/time/eco-friendliness and can be super practical. Recen

by sofixa 4y ago

Extremely cool and useful map! Night trains fill an important travel niche in terms of distance/comfort/time/eco-friendliness and can be super practical. Recently I took a night train for the first time since I was a teen instead of a 40 minute flight for the comfort levels and the emissions, and it was surprisingly comfortable. Not a perfect night's sleep (I'm a light sleeper), but perfectly enjoyable. PS: Sadly I doubt the Ukrainian night trains are all running at the moment..

braymundo 4y ago
They are (the Ukrainian trains). :) I took one recently from Przemysl to Kyiv and back. On time, comfortable, highly recommend.
- rob74 4y ago
  I guess they are also needed, as flying is not possible (or highly hazardous) at the moment: https://safeairspace.net/ukraine/ https://safeairspace.net/ukraine/
  - martopix 4y ago
    Yes, even heads of state who visit Kiev are currently mostly travelling by train afaik
    - braymundo 4y ago
      Ukrzaliznytsia (https://www.uz.gov.ua/en/ https://www.uz.gov.ua/en/) are heroes. There is a nice piece on the NYT about it: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/29/world/europe/ukraine-war-trains.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/29/world/europe/ukraine-war-...
excieve 4y ago
Ukrainian Railways are operating even close to the front lines (where physically possible due to destruction). Outside of those the service is pretty much as usual — both sleepers and daytime intercity. Sometimes there are delays if the electric grid gets hit by the missiles, but then they just attach a diesel locomotive to pull the train instead. International connections work too. My mother recently came to visit it us here. She took an intercity from Przemyśl, Poland on the way here and then a sleeper to Wien, Austria on the way back. Both arrived more or less on time.
yakshaving_jgt 4y ago
Ukrainian trains are still working fabulously, and are putting most of the rest of Europe to shame. They’re cheap, reliable, and comfortable. Even in a war. The only frustrating thing is they don’t seem to be doing first class cabins going across the border into Poland anymore (because of the war), and taking a first class cabin across Ukraine to Lviv and then another connection across the border is not particularly convenient.
- Symbiote 4y ago
  I think expecting first class rail travel during a major war is probably the most entitled attitude I've ever seen on HN.
  - yakshaving_jgt 4y ago
    Have you visited Ukraine? Have you travelled by train in Ukraine? The first class carriages are still in use between Odessa and Kyiv or Odessa and Lviv, just not on the train between Odessa and Przemysl. I can't work out why.
    - Symbiote 4y ago
      I couldn't care less about first class train service in Ukraine. Anyone who does care has the wrong priories. (I've been, but it was a brief visit a long time ago.)
      - yakshaving_jgt 4y ago
        I live in Ukraine and I’ve had to shelter from the missiles. I’ve seen and heard them. And the attack drones. The sirens. The explosions. Who the hell are you to tell me where my priorities should lie?

by sofixa 4y ago

braymundo 4y ago

They are (the Ukrainian trains). :) I took one recently from Przemysl to Kyiv and back. On time, comfortable, highly recommend.

rob74 4y ago
I guess they are also needed, as flying is not possible (or highly hazardous) at the moment: https://safeairspace.net/ukraine/ https://safeairspace.net/ukraine/
- martopix 4y ago
  Yes, even heads of state who visit Kiev are currently mostly travelling by train afaik
  - braymundo 4y ago
    Ukrzaliznytsia (https://www.uz.gov.ua/en/ https://www.uz.gov.ua/en/) are heroes. There is a nice piece on the NYT about it: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/29/world/europe/ukraine-war-trains.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/29/world/europe/ukraine-war-...

excieve 4y ago

Ukrainian Railways are operating even close to the front lines (where physically possible due to destruction). Outside of those the service is pretty much as usual — both sleepers and daytime intercity. Sometimes there are delays if the electric grid gets hit by the missiles, but then they just attach a diesel locomotive to pull the train instead. International connections work too. My mother recently came to visit it us here. She took an intercity from Przemyśl, Poland on the way here and then a sleeper to Wien, Austria on the way back. Both arrived more or less on time.

yakshaving_jgt 4y ago

Ukrainian trains are still working fabulously, and are putting most of the rest of Europe to shame. They’re cheap, reliable, and comfortable. Even in a war. The only frustrating thing is they don’t seem to be doing first class cabins going across the border into Poland anymore (because of the war), and taking a first class cabin across Ukraine to Lviv and then another connection across the border is not particularly convenient.

Symbiote 4y ago
I think expecting first class rail travel during a major war is probably the most entitled attitude I've ever seen on HN.
- yakshaving_jgt 4y ago
  Have you visited Ukraine? Have you travelled by train in Ukraine? The first class carriages are still in use between Odessa and Kyiv or Odessa and Lviv, just not on the train between Odessa and Przemysl. I can't work out why.
  - Symbiote 4y ago
    I couldn't care less about first class train service in Ukraine. Anyone who does care has the wrong priories. (I've been, but it was a brief visit a long time ago.)
    - yakshaving_jgt 4y ago
      I live in Ukraine and I’ve had to shelter from the missiles. I’ve seen and heard them. And the attack drones. The sirens. The explosions. Who the hell are you to tell me where my priorities should lie?