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Probably gonna get downvoted for this but people on HN take the Privacy Policy of brand new websites way too seriously. This is probably some template they dow

Probably gonna get downvoted for this but people on HN take the Privacy Policy of brand new websites way too seriously. This is probably some template they downloaded from the web, not some sly document they had their nefarious lawyers put together.

ChatGTP 4y ago
On the other hand, our company has recently mandated that all the software we use needs to have it's license checked over by a lawyer because we've found some fairly nefarious things in some of the software licenses we're using. Don't want to reveal where I work but let's say there's plenty of people working there who understand software licensing already, and some of the things were still missed until under a microscope. So maybe it pays to be skeptical / cautious?
- tchock23 4y ago
  As a SaaS vendor I’ve had an uptick in one off requests from legal teams to make changes to our terms. So far, nothing deal breaking (largely because there isn’t anything nefarious in our terms), but I wonder if this will be a trend moving forward.
  - Vasyl_R 4y ago
    thanks for your comment! Are the data privacy concerns the main SaaS challenge from your POV ?
    - tchock23 4y ago
      No, so far it has been about limiting their liability in the event of something bad happening on the platform.
naillo 4y ago
Every app using GPT will go through OpenAIs API and all that data is stored and used for training future models. No amount of good will or non nefarious intentions from IngestAI side makes any difference.
- Vasyl_R 4y ago
  thanks for your comment and support. That's what I'm trying basically to say in every third comment here. Generally, data privacy is a buzz topic since some time and with OpenAI it became even more viral.. It's not about IngestAI or any other SaaS, it's much wider topic and totally agree (thanks!).
  - naillo 4y ago
    To be clear I'm saying that you claiming that data won't leak into 3rd parties by storing it in aws is deceptive. There's no way you can protect the user of your product from having their data being soaked up by openai as long as you use their service instead of an open source LLM.
Vasyl_R 4y ago
thank you so much for your support! Hope there're more people that think like you and are a bit 'empathic' about new services.. We improve with every single client, with every single request, and issue we face. So yes- Data Privacy is something very important but it's not only about IngestAI, I believe. Most of the SaaS solutions use API and are on AWS.. So, again, it's a wide topic, a buzz topic now.. Thanks again)
krisoft 4y ago
> This is probably some template they downloaded from the web But that's worse. Don't you see how that is worse? They want to have access to all the knowledge of the company and they can't even articulate what will and won't they do with it? > people on HN take the Privacy Policy of brand new websites way too seriously. People should take Privacy Policies of every website they work with more seriously.
- Vasyl_R 4y ago
  We will work to fix this
Avshalom 4y ago
This is probably the output of asking an LLM to generate a privacy policy.

ChatGTP 4y ago

On the other hand, our company has recently mandated that all the software we use needs to have it's license checked over by a lawyer because we've found some fairly nefarious things in some of the software licenses we're using. Don't want to reveal where I work but let's say there's plenty of people working there who understand software licensing already, and some of the things were still missed until under a microscope. So maybe it pays to be skeptical / cautious?

tchock23 4y ago
As a SaaS vendor I’ve had an uptick in one off requests from legal teams to make changes to our terms. So far, nothing deal breaking (largely because there isn’t anything nefarious in our terms), but I wonder if this will be a trend moving forward.
- Vasyl_R 4y ago
  thanks for your comment! Are the data privacy concerns the main SaaS challenge from your POV ?
  - tchock23 4y ago
    No, so far it has been about limiting their liability in the event of something bad happening on the platform.

naillo 4y ago

Every app using GPT will go through OpenAIs API and all that data is stored and used for training future models. No amount of good will or non nefarious intentions from IngestAI side makes any difference.

Vasyl_R 4y ago
thanks for your comment and support. That's what I'm trying basically to say in every third comment here. Generally, data privacy is a buzz topic since some time and with OpenAI it became even more viral.. It's not about IngestAI or any other SaaS, it's much wider topic and totally agree (thanks!).
- naillo 4y ago
  To be clear I'm saying that you claiming that data won't leak into 3rd parties by storing it in aws is deceptive. There's no way you can protect the user of your product from having their data being soaked up by openai as long as you use their service instead of an open source LLM.

Vasyl_R 4y ago

thank you so much for your support! Hope there're more people that think like you and are a bit 'empathic' about new services.. We improve with every single client, with every single request, and issue we face. So yes- Data Privacy is something very important but it's not only about IngestAI, I believe. Most of the SaaS solutions use API and are on AWS.. So, again, it's a wide topic, a buzz topic now.. Thanks again)

krisoft 4y ago

> This is probably some template they downloaded from the web But that's worse. Don't you see how that is worse? They want to have access to all the knowledge of the company and they can't even articulate what will and won't they do with it? > people on HN take the Privacy Policy of brand new websites way too seriously. People should take Privacy Policies of every website they work with more seriously.

Vasyl_R 4y ago
We will work to fix this

Avshalom 4y ago

This is probably the output of asking an LLM to generate a privacy policy.