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latest update appears from 2009? Including instructions on how to fetch from cvs? Makes me a bit nostalgic, but not sure if this is relevant anymore

tomcam 4y ago
Last update was Feb 2022: https://sourceforge.net/p/lush/code/HEAD/tree/ https://sourceforge.net/p/lush/code/HEAD/tree/
- nsrahmad 4y ago
  by Leon Bottou (one of the original authors). Yann Lecun posted on twitter yersterday https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1628386056641847296?cxt=HHwWgICx9bWfmJktAAAA https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1628386056641847296?cxt=HH... >Hotter take: ML would have advanced faster if another front-end language had been available and widely adopted instead of Python. One that is interactive yet fast & compilable, multithreaded (no GIL), isn't bloated, doesn't care about white spaces,... E.g. Julia or some Lisp.
  - mturmon 4y ago
    Yes, that’s the news item that probably promoted the submission. Yann’s later chaser to the above take (https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1628390522892025860 https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1628390522892025860) — > Even hotter take: the fact that ML and Computer Vision researchers were largely using Matlab held back progress for years, mostly because implementing something like a ConvNet in 2005 Matlab would have been a total nightmare. And there are arguments back and forth about that. It’s funny, though, because a lot of the leading 1990s-2000s ML work was default-Matlab and people mostly loved it. Kevin Murphy used to advise Mathworks on bayes net implementation, and a lot of researchers from that time really liked the “numerical shell” that the Matlab REPL offered. But of course one can see Yann’s point that the lack of clean capability for abstractions (I think struct’s came in the later 90s, lambda’s in the mid 2000s?) and licensing costs did hold the field back.
    - ramblerman 4y ago
      I did the original machine learning coursera course from Andrew ng, the homeworks in matlab were a horrible experience, seared into my memory till this day. fwiw, I'm not a researcher though.
- 0xblood 4y ago
  Sorry, I did not check the repo itself, I don't think I even have a cvs client anymore. On the linked page there's a section prominently placed, titled "Latest News". If you check there, the latest of such news is titled "A first Lush 2.0 beta is out!" with a date of 2009-10-19.
  - paines 4y ago
    IIRC there is a zip for the beta 2009 release.

tomcam 4y ago

Last update was Feb 2022: https://sourceforge.net/p/lush/code/HEAD/tree/ https://sourceforge.net/p/lush/code/HEAD/tree/

nsrahmad 4y ago
by Leon Bottou (one of the original authors). Yann Lecun posted on twitter yersterday https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1628386056641847296?cxt=HHwWgICx9bWfmJktAAAA https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1628386056641847296?cxt=HH... >Hotter take: ML would have advanced faster if another front-end language had been available and widely adopted instead of Python. One that is interactive yet fast & compilable, multithreaded (no GIL), isn't bloated, doesn't care about white spaces,... E.g. Julia or some Lisp.
- mturmon 4y ago
  Yes, that’s the news item that probably promoted the submission. Yann’s later chaser to the above take (https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1628390522892025860 https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1628390522892025860) — > Even hotter take: the fact that ML and Computer Vision researchers were largely using Matlab held back progress for years, mostly because implementing something like a ConvNet in 2005 Matlab would have been a total nightmare. And there are arguments back and forth about that. It’s funny, though, because a lot of the leading 1990s-2000s ML work was default-Matlab and people mostly loved it. Kevin Murphy used to advise Mathworks on bayes net implementation, and a lot of researchers from that time really liked the “numerical shell” that the Matlab REPL offered. But of course one can see Yann’s point that the lack of clean capability for abstractions (I think struct’s came in the later 90s, lambda’s in the mid 2000s?) and licensing costs did hold the field back.
  - ramblerman 4y ago
    I did the original machine learning coursera course from Andrew ng, the homeworks in matlab were a horrible experience, seared into my memory till this day. fwiw, I'm not a researcher though.
0xblood 4y ago
Sorry, I did not check the repo itself, I don't think I even have a cvs client anymore. On the linked page there's a section prominently placed, titled "Latest News". If you check there, the latest of such news is titled "A first Lush 2.0 beta is out!" with a date of 2009-10-19.
- paines 4y ago
  IIRC there is a zip for the beta 2009 release.