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I look at it from a general system theory point of view first and foremost as that's a level of abstraction higher than both humans and machines, yet you can fi
by barking_biscuit 4y ago
I look at it from a general system theory point of view first and foremost as that's a level of abstraction higher than both humans and machines, yet you can find clear sets of definitions that describe all of these things. They go so far as to include knowledge, understanding and degrees thereof. I've started working my way through "On Purposeful Systems" as I've been finding most people's definitions far too hand wavy to be useful in thinking about the topic. That's been quite interesting.
One thing that stands in my mind from having read that is that the structural properties of the system matter in terms of its possible function, and I'm referring to the exact structure that includes the model trained on the non-gibberish text and treating that as the specific system I'm referring to. It seems when you say ChatGPT you're referring to the entire functional class of objects that implement the transformer architecture, which I'm not.
After thinking about it for a while the second thing I would note is that you're focused only on it's intrinsic function of predicting the next token, which as you say it always performs that function regardless of the training data, and I agree with that. Where we differ, I think, is I'm considering the specific structure which includes the model trained on non-gibberish data as an instrument (not a human!) that we use for it's extrinsic functions. Normally an individual or system's extrinsic functions are so narrow they're a lot easier to define, and we've never interacted with a system until now that the extrinsic function is like "understand what I say and reply accordingly". Think about it from the perspective of would you use or have any utility for GibberishGPT? No, same way I wouldn't read a book of pure gibberish.
- kgarten 4y agoto make my point easier: for my definition of to read, to understand and comprehend you need a body, an embodied mind. you need agency and consciousness. ChatGPT has none of those, it's an implementation of several matrix functions. the specific model you are referring to does nothing, it's not acting (it's not reading anything). you have to press enter for it to work. so it's not reading, you (and OpenAi engineers) are doing its actions for it.