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I absolutely love my 51nb 10th-gen Intel transplant Thinkpad x200. It's incredible how, after 10 years, it still feels better as a piece of hardware than my mod

I absolutely love my 51nb 10th-gen Intel transplant Thinkpad x200. It's incredible how, after 10 years, it still feels better as a piece of hardware than my modern Thinkpads do (not to say that they're at all badly built). Nothing comes close to that keyboard, not even my choc sunsets. I lost my original Thinkpad 700c that I grew up with in a house move about 5 years ago. I don't think I'll ever forgive myself.

_joel 4y ago
Yea, I've got a 220 still going strong after a turbulent start, used to randomly reboot but they fixed the BIOS and it's been gtg since. New battery and new keyboard... all good.
juujian 4y ago
Interesting idea. How did you deal with the ports? HDMI and the likes?
- boomskats 4y ago
  Xue Yao has a really nice page [0] explaining how all that stuff works. I got mine from Jacky@lcdfans, and he's been really great to deal with (contrary to his reputation). I haven't used it with an external screen yet, but I believe the type C port supports DP. [0]: https://www.xyte.ch/mods/x210-x2100/ https://www.xyte.ch/mods/x210-x2100/
mhb 4y ago
After some of my Carbon X1 keyboard keys stopped working (and trackpoint never seemed to work well (e.g., drift)), I resurrected my X220. The keyboard and working trackpoint are such a joy that it's worth the downgrade of display and sound. Also nice to have a real Ethernet port, memory card slot and Displayport built in.
eBombzor 4y ago
> not to say that they're at all badly built It's okay to be honest. Are modern TPs better built than Walmart laptops? Of course. But do they live up to the price tag and legendary Thinkpad name? No. Not at all. While modern TPs have dipped significantly in quality other manufacturers have been catching up. Some of my issues with T14 Gen 1 1. Cheap daughter boards for USB c ports that hilariously die every few months, on a laptop that only offers USB c charging... 2. Keyboard is trash. I'd rather use the keyboard on my Acer Nitro. High actuation tires out my fingers. 3. Terrible trackpad. Absolutely terrible. Not just the texture but the firmware, it works fine for one second then all of a sudden, it's this laggy, unresponsive mess. 4. Cooling is terrible and laptop throttles constantly. 5. Build quality is terrible for a TP. Screen started peeling off when I dropped it once, the chassis screws are easily stripped, extremely thing plastic gets chipped, random components die and aren't easily replaceable like past TPs. 6. It's just buggy. Function key lights are incorrect randomly, when I plug in my mouse, the trackpad gets like 1-2 second input delay. On the flip side I've been using business Latitudes and Elite books at work which aren't great but still work better than this TP.
- boomskats 4y ago
  FWIW I think the T14 is an exceptionally badly made thinkpad. It was one of their first AMD thinkpads, and it was positioned firmly as a 'budget' machine. I really think it was rushed to market to take advantage of those mobile ryzens. I bought a couple of them for some of my team (for the better graphics in Linux). The controller firmware it came with scanned rows and columns of the keyboard matrix at completely different frequencies, which created this weird interference pattern where it would randomly swallow keypresses if you pressed them at just the right time. It sucked, it made the laptop keyboard unusable. They did fix it eventually though, and I guess updating your controller firmware might help your trackpad issues. I'm a trackpoint fanboy so I don't know for sure. FWIW I'm a big fan of both the X1C line and the X1E/P1. My primary laptop for last 3-4 years had been a p1 gen 2, before I went all in on the x2100.
  - eBombzor 4y ago
    I had the the Intel T14 Gen 1. One of the 10th gen CPUs, don't remember which one.
- goosedragons 4y ago
  I have a P14s Gen 2 AMD. I think it's pretty much identical to a T14 Gen 2 AMD because Lenovo. I've had it about a year. No cooling problems, no USB C ports have died, keyboard is pretty good although not as good as my W520. I don't use the trackpad so I can't really comment in it. Only real issue is that disabling the trackpad under Linux doesn't fully disable it.

_joel 4y ago

Yea, I've got a 220 still going strong after a turbulent start, used to randomly reboot but they fixed the BIOS and it's been gtg since. New battery and new keyboard... all good.

juujian 4y ago

Interesting idea. How did you deal with the ports? HDMI and the likes?

boomskats 4y ago
Xue Yao has a really nice page [0] explaining how all that stuff works. I got mine from Jacky@lcdfans, and he's been really great to deal with (contrary to his reputation). I haven't used it with an external screen yet, but I believe the type C port supports DP. [0]: https://www.xyte.ch/mods/x210-x2100/ https://www.xyte.ch/mods/x210-x2100/

mhb 4y ago

After some of my Carbon X1 keyboard keys stopped working (and trackpoint never seemed to work well (e.g., drift)), I resurrected my X220. The keyboard and working trackpoint are such a joy that it's worth the downgrade of display and sound. Also nice to have a real Ethernet port, memory card slot and Displayport built in.

eBombzor 4y ago

> not to say that they're at all badly built It's okay to be honest. Are modern TPs better built than Walmart laptops? Of course. But do they live up to the price tag and legendary Thinkpad name? No. Not at all. While modern TPs have dipped significantly in quality other manufacturers have been catching up. Some of my issues with T14 Gen 1 1. Cheap daughter boards for USB c ports that hilariously die every few months, on a laptop that only offers USB c charging... 2. Keyboard is trash. I'd rather use the keyboard on my Acer Nitro. High actuation tires out my fingers. 3. Terrible trackpad. Absolutely terrible. Not just the texture but the firmware, it works fine for one second then all of a sudden, it's this laggy, unresponsive mess. 4. Cooling is terrible and laptop throttles constantly. 5. Build quality is terrible for a TP. Screen started peeling off when I dropped it once, the chassis screws are easily stripped, extremely thing plastic gets chipped, random components die and aren't easily replaceable like past TPs. 6. It's just buggy. Function key lights are incorrect randomly, when I plug in my mouse, the trackpad gets like 1-2 second input delay. On the flip side I've been using business Latitudes and Elite books at work which aren't great but still work better than this TP.

boomskats 4y ago
FWIW I think the T14 is an exceptionally badly made thinkpad. It was one of their first AMD thinkpads, and it was positioned firmly as a 'budget' machine. I really think it was rushed to market to take advantage of those mobile ryzens. I bought a couple of them for some of my team (for the better graphics in Linux). The controller firmware it came with scanned rows and columns of the keyboard matrix at completely different frequencies, which created this weird interference pattern where it would randomly swallow keypresses if you pressed them at just the right time. It sucked, it made the laptop keyboard unusable. They did fix it eventually though, and I guess updating your controller firmware might help your trackpad issues. I'm a trackpoint fanboy so I don't know for sure. FWIW I'm a big fan of both the X1C line and the X1E/P1. My primary laptop for last 3-4 years had been a p1 gen 2, before I went all in on the x2100.
- eBombzor 4y ago
  I had the the Intel T14 Gen 1. One of the 10th gen CPUs, don't remember which one.
goosedragons 4y ago
I have a P14s Gen 2 AMD. I think it's pretty much identical to a T14 Gen 2 AMD because Lenovo. I've had it about a year. No cooling problems, no USB C ports have died, keyboard is pretty good although not as good as my W520. I don't use the trackpad so I can't really comment in it. Only real issue is that disabling the trackpad under Linux doesn't fully disable it.