>Both Mercedes and Volkswagen have absolutely massive software divisions, easily 10k+ people. That doesn't mean jack. Most large German companies I worked at t

>Both Mercedes and Volkswagen have absolutely massive software divisions, easily 10k+ people. That doesn't mean jack. Most large German companies I worked at tended to be super inefficient, being very top heavy and prone to constant turf wars and power struggles between the managers, as that was the only career path that made you any decent money so everyone was focusing on that instead of building great products. >They pay really well for German standards and have access to a large talent pool of people that would like to live in Germany. Meh, pay is underwhelming, as they focus more on getting off-shore talent from abroad on a visa who's more interested in getting to Germany at any cost rather than netting a higher market wage or increasing wages to attract local talent. These companies are good places to coast on average wages, not to make money and innovate making great products.