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Botswana and Rwanda seems to be countries with lower levels of corruption and reasonably good or improving public services. Ghana too was doing well in the las

by prmph 4y ago

Botswana and Rwanda seems to be countries with lower levels of corruption and reasonably good or improving public services. Ghana too was doing well in the last decade, but now has taken a turn for the worse since the current government took over. I live in Ghana, and the level of corruption now, and the neglect of a proper development agenda, is unbelievable. So, I don’t think there is necessarily anything that makes black-majority countries incapable of curbing corruption.

seafoam 4y ago
Paul Rusesabagina could not be reached for comment.
- dredmorbius 4y ago
  Context, for the curious: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Rusesabagina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Rusesabagina>
- prmph 4y ago
  Not sure what this has to do with Rwanda having low corruption. The kinds of countries in the 3rd world that are sufficiently "liberal" to the liking of the west are usually cesspools of corruption and poverty. I should know, because I have experienced it myself. In Ghana set up stalls for trade on the sides of major roads, at considerable risk to their safety. Successive governments have tried to force them away for a while, only for people to denounce those actions as heartless. Invariably, they slowly creep back. Imagine those who promote this situation are fined or jailed. Is that a case of being authoritarian, or a case of robust enforcement of safety rules? Here you have an African country enforcing the rule of law and a strong national identity, and with actual results to back it up. Of course mistakes can be made, and I'm not holding up the Rwandan regime as blameless in terms of human rights. But if you you focus on quality of life of the average citizen, they have improved a great deal.
jackothy 4y ago
I feel like if it can all turn bad just from one election to the next, then it was never really good. I wonder if Botswana and Rwanda are just as vulnerable as Ghana was.
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
  Rwanda is no stranger to bad times. 1994, being well known.

by prmph 4y ago

seafoam 4y ago

Paul Rusesabagina could not be reached for comment.

dredmorbius 4y ago
Context, for the curious: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Rusesabagina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Rusesabagina>
prmph 4y ago
Not sure what this has to do with Rwanda having low corruption. The kinds of countries in the 3rd world that are sufficiently "liberal" to the liking of the west are usually cesspools of corruption and poverty. I should know, because I have experienced it myself. In Ghana set up stalls for trade on the sides of major roads, at considerable risk to their safety. Successive governments have tried to force them away for a while, only for people to denounce those actions as heartless. Invariably, they slowly creep back. Imagine those who promote this situation are fined or jailed. Is that a case of being authoritarian, or a case of robust enforcement of safety rules? Here you have an African country enforcing the rule of law and a strong national identity, and with actual results to back it up. Of course mistakes can be made, and I'm not holding up the Rwandan regime as blameless in terms of human rights. But if you you focus on quality of life of the average citizen, they have improved a great deal.

jackothy 4y ago

I feel like if it can all turn bad just from one election to the next, then it was never really good. I wonder if Botswana and Rwanda are just as vulnerable as Ghana was.

SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
Rwanda is no stranger to bad times. 1994, being well known.