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>misogyny, it might be a proxy for self-esteem Seems to me misandry would be a better proxy for self-esteem. I do know men who are very much misandrist. I'm

>misogyny, it might be a proxy for self-esteem Seems to me misandry would be a better proxy for self-esteem. I do know men who are very much misandrist. I'm not just talking about them "going woke" I'm talking about kids whose fathers abandoned them or whatever and they feel a lot of resentment when they look around and see this is a common story. As men collectively become more productive, more empathetic, less toxic, and all this stuff I only hear more and more people pleading that we ratchet up scrutiny of men to the point Gilette think's it's a good idea to run an ad directed by women about how men need to do better and do this and that wrong and just need to get their shit together [1]. Similarly, I would say that self-hating racism is a better proxy for self-esteem than racism in general. In fact this shit is out of control in Incel communities to the point they have terms like "currycels", "ricecels", etc. You know why they feel this way? Is it because they themselves are racist towards towards others? No it's generally because they look at dating site stats and see how women are racist towards them (in a highly specific context) and internalise the racism of others and hate themselves. Oddly I don't think I've EVER heard somebody suggest that women should be less racist towards men to improve men's self-esteem, even though I've seen such racism CRUSH men's self-esteem over and over. I don't know I see the idea that the key towards self-esteem is holding people other than yourself in high esteem and think they're totally absurd on its face. If an Indian Man or Black Man or White Man or Asian Man doesn't like people like themselves, if they don't look up to proud Malcolm X like role models, their self-esteem is always going to be shit. Men are generally portrayed as either oppressor or oppressed, either way they have cause to feel bad about themselves. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYaY2Kb_PKI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYaY2Kb_PKI

josephg 4y ago
I saw a video the other day which pointed out a troubling statistic: Universities today have more gender bias than they had in the 70s. But the gender bias has reversed - instead of men differentials succeeding more than women, men are now much less likely to graduate from university than women are. I think it’s pretty awful having one gender succeed at the expense of another, whichever way around that goes. For society to be healthy we need everyone to thrive. https://youtu.be/DBG1Wgg32Ok https://youtu.be/DBG1Wgg32Ok
- eastbound 4y ago
  Worse: Gender equilibrium in universities was reached in 1980, both in USA, France and probably other countries. Every effort we’ve made since then for women in a particular field, should have been met with an equal effort for men in another field.

josephg 4y ago

I saw a video the other day which pointed out a troubling statistic: Universities today have more gender bias than they had in the 70s. But the gender bias has reversed - instead of men differentials succeeding more than women, men are now much less likely to graduate from university than women are. I think it’s pretty awful having one gender succeed at the expense of another, whichever way around that goes. For society to be healthy we need everyone to thrive. https://youtu.be/DBG1Wgg32Ok https://youtu.be/DBG1Wgg32Ok

eastbound 4y ago
Worse: Gender equilibrium in universities was reached in 1980, both in USA, France and probably other countries. Every effort we’ve made since then for women in a particular field, should have been met with an equal effort for men in another field.