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> The company is confident that this strategic approach to software and hardware development will be the basis for lifetime revenues as well as additional contr

by badRNG 4y ago

> The company is confident that this strategic approach to software and hardware development will be the basis for lifetime revenues as well as additional contributions. Already in 2022, Mercedes-Benz generated more than 1 billion euro in software-enabled revenues with products and services such as navigation, Live Traffic or online map updates. Get ready to pay a monthly subscription to use features that come stock on your car.

gigatexal 4y ago
All it needs to do is support CarPlay. Honestly car manufacturers should just let Apple do the whole car takeover. I’ve not met a stock system I liked. I’d rather it be powered by my phone.
- sokoloff 4y ago
  I added a $200 CarPlay radio to our old Honda and it blows away every factory nav unit for usability (and sounds adequate). At this point, I’m only buying a car that has, or can easily have added, wireless CarPlay.
- speedgoose 4y ago
  I like the BMW and the Tesla ones. I also heard good things about the Polestar Android. The current OS on the Mercedes looks very laggy and not very user friendly, but if they fixed these major issues it could be quite nice. The high end Mercedes has a huge oled dashboard, it’s not something Apple CarPlay supports.
  - rootusrootus 4y ago
    Tesla's is fairly good, but the way they handle text messages leaves me really wishing I could just have CarPlay. I may install a third-party screen somewhere so I can have it back.
drewg123 4y ago
What's the legality of hacking these things, assuming you own the car? For example, BMW charges $18/mo to turn on heated seats you already own. Am I legally allowed to hack their software to enable heated seats w/o paying? How about installing a wire and switch and running them manually?
- TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
  Of course you are, otherwise jailbreaking would be a crime.
- izacus 4y ago
  Well, depends on how much do you want a 5000-15.000$ warranty repair on your 80.000$+ vehicle to be rejected because you messed around with it. It's not about difficulty of hacking, but with just how easy it is to put in DRM measures that will make sure that official repair shops will reject the repairs (and unofficial ones are really struggling due to lack of access to DRMed service tools necessary for new modules).

by badRNG 4y ago

gigatexal 4y ago

All it needs to do is support CarPlay. Honestly car manufacturers should just let Apple do the whole car takeover. I’ve not met a stock system I liked. I’d rather it be powered by my phone.

sokoloff 4y ago
I added a $200 CarPlay radio to our old Honda and it blows away every factory nav unit for usability (and sounds adequate). At this point, I’m only buying a car that has, or can easily have added, wireless CarPlay.
speedgoose 4y ago
I like the BMW and the Tesla ones. I also heard good things about the Polestar Android. The current OS on the Mercedes looks very laggy and not very user friendly, but if they fixed these major issues it could be quite nice. The high end Mercedes has a huge oled dashboard, it’s not something Apple CarPlay supports.
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  Tesla's is fairly good, but the way they handle text messages leaves me really wishing I could just have CarPlay. I may install a third-party screen somewhere so I can have it back.

drewg123 4y ago

What's the legality of hacking these things, assuming you own the car? For example, BMW charges $18/mo to turn on heated seats you already own. Am I legally allowed to hack their software to enable heated seats w/o paying? How about installing a wire and switch and running them manually?

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
Of course you are, otherwise jailbreaking would be a crime.
izacus 4y ago
Well, depends on how much do you want a 5000-15.000$ warranty repair on your 80.000$+ vehicle to be rejected because you messed around with it. It's not about difficulty of hacking, but with just how easy it is to put in DRM measures that will make sure that official repair shops will reject the repairs (and unofficial ones are really struggling due to lack of access to DRMed service tools necessary for new modules).