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(assuming our model of the universe is correct and complete)

• beebeepka 4y ago
  No, no. The model is pretty accurate. Just add more dark stuff and stir until it matches our expectations!
  • CuteDinosaur 4y ago
    It is good to think about, maybe the dark stuff are the cause of these "early" galaxies.
    • nblgbg 4y ago
      That means bing bang happened long back and some our theories are wrong ! May be there is no dark matter !
  • uoaei 4y ago
    For the laypeople: dark matter is literally defined as "the gap between our existing model and the data we've collected". It is not a model, it is merely an acknowledgment of a lack of one (see: the vagueness of the name "dark matter"). There have been proposed models for why this occurs (WIMPs, etc.) but none have been convincing from a scientific perspective, mainly due to the inherent lack of observations which can justify such models.
• detourdog 4y ago
  Yes, I thought the words “shouldn’t exist” is the wrong term for this phenomenon.
  • nawgz 4y ago
    Isn't it pretty clear it means "shouldn't exist [under current models]"?
    • jl6 4y ago
      It’s careless language which positions scientific theories as normative rather than descriptive. This makes refinement look like failure (“Science told us things that turned out to be wrong!”), when actually refining theories is progress that should be celebrated.
      • danuker 4y ago
        The wording definitely intrigued me, and I understood the implied "given current models". I think sparking curiosity is more important than catering to someone who is not the target audience of a university news article.
      • nawgz 4y ago
        That's a lot of damage for two words! Can you suggest an equally terse title that would avoid problems such as "position[ing] scientific theories as normative rather than descriptive" and "mak[ing] refinement look like failure"? I think you're assigning far too much wrongdoing to this perceived sleight here, I wouldn't even think that saying "our current understanding makes this look impossible" is a way of saying we shouldn't celebrate change and improved understanding, I would instead go the opposite way and think how interesting it is to find things outside our understanding
        • detourdog 4y ago
          surprising would work for me.
        • willis936 4y ago
          Why use two words when one is suffient? "Unexpected". "Shouldn't exist" is cargo cult psuedoscience terminology.
      • nathan_compton 4y ago
        I'm sympathetic to your point, but this usage of should in a non-normative way is also thoroughly colloquial and understood by pretty much any native english. Maybe there is some slight, subconscious coloration, but I can't think of other things which have had a bigger effect on the public's distrust of science than leaving off "according to our best model" from the end of a sentence.
• rickstanley 4y ago
  We should sanction these galaxies!