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This is exactly how I end up being labeled a conservative, besides the fact that I like to shoot guns. I don't have faith in government. Government is merely

This is exactly how I end up being labeled a conservative, besides the fact that I like to shoot guns. I don't have faith in government. Government is merely a necessary part of the equation. In the eyes of some, this makes me a conservative. Conserving what? I think taxes are necessary, that social programs can do good (including forms of welfare), that no one should be discriminated against, and that the God of the Bible does not exist. Somehow that's not enough because I don't subscribe to the theology of government. Seriously, I don't know why you think lacking faith in government is a good metric for guessing whether someone is a conservative, as if it even matters for such a comment. Do you assume someone is Black because they say they like basketball?

nerdponx 4y ago
> Seriously, I don't know why you think lacking faith in government is a good metric for guessing whether someone is a conservative, as if it even matters for such a comment. Do you assume someone is Black because they say they like basketball? It's a dogwhistle.
dd36 4y ago
I think it’s because you pick government. I don’t have faith in any large organization public or private not being corrupted. So if you merely don’t have faith in government, it implies you do have faith in non-government entities.
- ravenstine 4y ago
  Sorry, I just don't see how that follows. You have no clue what I think about public or private institutions based on one view about the government.
  - dd36 4y ago
    It’s implied by the focus on government, specifically.
gnulinux 4y ago
> Seriously, I don't know why you think lacking faith in government is a good metric for guessing whether someone is a conservative, as if it even matters for such a comment. Do you assume someone is Black because they say they like basketball? This is a terrible analogy and it's clear you didn't read my comment. First, I didn't say you're conservative, I said you used the exact same rhetoric conservatives use, which is a factually correct statement. Second, liking basketball and relating that to an ethnic group would not be observing that someone uses the same kind of rhetoric as an ideological group. You can be non-conservative but still use conservative rhetoric. You can be non-conservative, have conservative opinions but use non-conservative rhetoric, e.g. I am pro-guns but it is for entirely different reasons than conservatives. You can be otherwise non-conservative, but be pro-guns for the same reason conservatives are. In that case, it's fair for people to point out that you're using conservative rhetoric.
tomcam 4y ago
Same

nerdponx 4y ago

dd36 4y ago

I think it’s because you pick government. I don’t have faith in any large organization public or private not being corrupted. So if you merely don’t have faith in government, it implies you do have faith in non-government entities.

ravenstine 4y ago
Sorry, I just don't see how that follows. You have no clue what I think about public or private institutions based on one view about the government.
- dd36 4y ago
  It’s implied by the focus on government, specifically.

gnulinux 4y ago

> Seriously, I don't know why you think lacking faith in government is a good metric for guessing whether someone is a conservative, as if it even matters for such a comment. Do you assume someone is Black because they say they like basketball? This is a terrible analogy and it's clear you didn't read my comment. First, I didn't say you're conservative, I said you used the exact same rhetoric conservatives use, which is a factually correct statement. Second, liking basketball and relating that to an ethnic group would not be observing that someone uses the same kind of rhetoric as an ideological group. You can be non-conservative but still use conservative rhetoric. You can be non-conservative, have conservative opinions but use non-conservative rhetoric, e.g. I am pro-guns but it is for entirely different reasons than conservatives. You can be otherwise non-conservative, but be pro-guns for the same reason conservatives are. In that case, it's fair for people to point out that you're using conservative rhetoric.

tomcam 4y ago

Same