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Its depressing that this is still news. Sigh.

by lbrito 4y ago

ortusdux 4y ago
It's more depressing that this study won't change any minds.
barbazoo 4y ago
And even more depressing that it probably won't change anyone's mind.
mustacheemperor 4y ago
I think every time I have seen Ivermectin come up on Hackernews, there's at least a few comments insisting on the make-believe, too. It's a very clear example of how no community's members - even our comment section literati - are automatically immune to bandwagoning conspiracy theories. They're not all green usernames, they're often people with a long comment history who I'm sure are considered informed, smart people at their jobs. Yet they show up to insist a big medicine conspiracy is the reason they've been told not to self-medicate COVID19 with anti-parasite drugs.
CharlesW 4y ago
> Its depressing that this is still news. Sigh. Even with the politics of it, I'm still glad we're sciencing the hypothesis.
- lbrito 4y ago
  Why? We have limited resources. We have to be smart about what to research. If the hypothesis is widely discredited, we should not be sciencing it, because that means something else is not being scienced. Should we also be glad if an astronomy department starts seriously researching the geocentric model instead of exoplanets?
eitland 4y ago
Ypu know one thing that is more depressing? That the reasok why we are are with this debate is probably the very hamfisted approach that was taken early on with banning even medical doctors from mentioning it. There has been a some times over the years were some seemingly miracle cure was announced for something but as new facts came in, everyone moved on. This could easily have been the case here too. But by banning talk about a very safe over-the-counter medication social media reinforced the feeling that someone was hiding something and here we are f today.
- lbrito 4y ago
  I don't know whether there was a hamfisted ban or not, but I don't think the rest of your reasoning makes sense. Certain political groups cling on to seemingly random things, whether there's a research ban or not. For instance, I just recently learned that the 15 minute city concept is now officially part of the conspiracy theory canon.

Its depressing that this is still news. Sigh.

by lbrito 4y ago

Its depressing that this is still news. Sigh.

ortusdux 4y ago

It's more depressing that this study won't change any minds.

barbazoo 4y ago

And even more depressing that it probably won't change anyone's mind.

mustacheemperor 4y ago

I think every time I have seen Ivermectin come up on Hackernews, there's at least a few comments insisting on the make-believe, too. It's a very clear example of how no community's members - even our comment section literati - are automatically immune to bandwagoning conspiracy theories. They're not all green usernames, they're often people with a long comment history who I'm sure are considered informed, smart people at their jobs. Yet they show up to insist a big medicine conspiracy is the reason they've been told not to self-medicate COVID19 with anti-parasite drugs.

CharlesW 4y ago

> Its depressing that this is still news. Sigh. Even with the politics of it, I'm still glad we're sciencing the hypothesis.

lbrito 4y ago
Why? We have limited resources. We have to be smart about what to research. If the hypothesis is widely discredited, we should not be sciencing it, because that means something else is not being scienced. Should we also be glad if an astronomy department starts seriously researching the geocentric model instead of exoplanets?

eitland 4y ago

Ypu know one thing that is more depressing? That the reasok why we are are with this debate is probably the very hamfisted approach that was taken early on with banning even medical doctors from mentioning it. There has been a some times over the years were some seemingly miracle cure was announced for something but as new facts came in, everyone moved on. This could easily have been the case here too. But by banning talk about a very safe over-the-counter medication social media reinforced the feeling that someone was hiding something and here we are f today.

lbrito 4y ago
I don't know whether there was a hamfisted ban or not, but I don't think the rest of your reasoning makes sense. Certain political groups cling on to seemingly random things, whether there's a research ban or not. For instance, I just recently learned that the 15 minute city concept is now officially part of the conspiracy theory canon.