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• lamontcg 4y ago
  > Then again, Apple Maps shows us they might just release it anyways... Apple Maps has been working entirely fine for me. For this glucose monitoring the early product that Apple ships will almost certainly be grossly inferior to the product 10-20 years later. I don't understand why this is a problem.
  • microtherion 4y ago
    If Apple Maps gives you bad information, you usually can correct the wrong turn you take without too much difficulty. If glucose monitoring gives you bad information, you could easily lose body parts, die, or other bad outcomes (In the last 10 years, one of my friends died, after apparently having lost several toes in an earlier episode. Another friend was rescued by the police after driving on the highway for several hours in a disoriented state. Both of them were medical professionals and presumably using best practices in their monitoring).
    • lamontcg 4y ago
      So you've just proven that medical technology in general suffers from problems of edge conditions and individual variability, but you expect that Apple needs to create a literally perfect product.
      • microtherion 4y ago
        Not literally perfect, but with the awareness that the stakes are considerably higher than generally with their products, both from an ethical and a product liability point of view (Apple's vast resources could prove problematic on the latter aspect, as they would represent a particularly deep pocketed target for potential litigation).
        • lamontcg 4y ago
          And they've been working on it for 13 years trying to bring a product to market? How much more slow and careful do you want them to be?
          • microtherion 4y ago
            I want them to ship when the product is ready, whether that's next month or another 10 years from now.
• simondotau 4y ago
  Things like Apple Maps are a special case, where improvement is driven by public exposure. Yes, Apple’s maps were full of errors upon initial release, but improvement was fairly rapid (albeit entirely opaque, unlike a typical open source project). Today, I find that while Waze does the best driving navigation and Google Maps is unbeatable as a modern yellow pages, Apple Maps is equal to or superior in nearly every other way. It’s walking and public transport modes are, in my experience, consistently superior to anything else.
  • shaunsingh0207 4y ago
    Especially over the last few years around most of the east coast, for me Apple Maps has become far better than google maps for everything, except reviews. Especially for biking and public transport as you said.
    • simondotau 4y ago
      Almost-always-correct store open hours are the killer app for me with Google Maps. I also love the way Street View can show you historical vision. I find the reviews in Google Maps to be (like Yelp, TripAdvisor etc) to be thoroughly useless. Tourism-driven companies are loaded up with manipulated reviews; cafes and restaurants get ratings that often bear no resemblance to reality. The sad fact is, even where reviews are genuine, the people who leave reviews on a mainstream site like Google Maps are not a representative sampling.
• riwsky 4y ago
  obligatory: https://xkcd.com/2617/ https://xkcd.com/2617/