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No, they don't.

rootusrootus 4y ago
§ 116 StPO (Code of Criminal Procedure) disagrees with that assertion. Remand detention is definitely a thing for people charged with murder.
- kstenerud 4y ago
  It's definitely a _possible_ thing, but it's not very common (as I stated before). It's even right there in the statute that there are degrees of curfew, required supervision, house arrest, etc based on the likelihood of the accused interfering with the investigation or absconding (which, once again, is rare). There are also cases where someone is deemed likely to commit another violent offense, but this is VERY rare. The point is that in such civilized countries, the legal system does everything it can to not interfere with someone's life, even when they are accused of a serious crime like murder. Most accused rarely see more than a few hours behind bars before trial, if that.
iLoveOncall 4y ago
Yeah of course, they just let murderers roam around the country because they haven't been judged yet. Terrorists too, why not?
- kstenerud 4y ago
  accused murderers. Until they've been found guilty, they have right to liberty. The only exceptions are when they are deemed likely to abscond, interfere with the investigation, or commit another violent offense. The bar to decide this is VERY high and requires a judge to sign off on it (and so it's rare for it to happen). Also, judges are not elected, so you don't get judges with axes to grind or constituents to keep happy. I realize that it's different in America, where the accusation is enough by itself (you even publish their names, which is just insane considering the ensuing destruction of their reputations).
  - iLoveOncall 4y ago
    I'm not from or in America. I've lived in my fair share of European countries. You are just plain wrong. Accused people go to jail before their trial. All. The. Time. But hey, how about some stats? 20.6% of all inmates in Germany are pre-trial: https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/germany https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/germany This is not even 3% less than the US which have 23.3%. It's also a worse percentage than Serbia, Slovakia, Turkey, Romania, Sudan, Algeria, Oman, and many more. Germany is not even in the top 25% of countries (out of 208) for pre-trial detainees. Do us a favor, get off the internet.

No, they don't.

§ 116 StPO (Code of Criminal Procedure) disagrees with that assertion. Remand detention is definitely a thing for people charged with murder.

kstenerud 4y ago
It's definitely a _possible_ thing, but it's not very common (as I stated before). It's even right there in the statute that there are degrees of curfew, required supervision, house arrest, etc based on the likelihood of the accused interfering with the investigation or absconding (which, once again, is rare). There are also cases where someone is deemed likely to commit another violent offense, but this is VERY rare. The point is that in such civilized countries, the legal system does everything it can to not interfere with someone's life, even when they are accused of a serious crime like murder. Most accused rarely see more than a few hours behind bars before trial, if that.

iLoveOncall 4y ago

Yeah of course, they just let murderers roam around the country because they haven't been judged yet. Terrorists too, why not?

kstenerud 4y ago
accused murderers. Until they've been found guilty, they have right to liberty. The only exceptions are when they are deemed likely to abscond, interfere with the investigation, or commit another violent offense. The bar to decide this is VERY high and requires a judge to sign off on it (and so it's rare for it to happen). Also, judges are not elected, so you don't get judges with axes to grind or constituents to keep happy. I realize that it's different in America, where the accusation is enough by itself (you even publish their names, which is just insane considering the ensuing destruction of their reputations).
- iLoveOncall 4y ago
  I'm not from or in America. I've lived in my fair share of European countries. You are just plain wrong. Accused people go to jail before their trial. All. The. Time. But hey, how about some stats? 20.6% of all inmates in Germany are pre-trial: https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/germany https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/germany This is not even 3% less than the US which have 23.3%. It's also a worse percentage than Serbia, Slovakia, Turkey, Romania, Sudan, Algeria, Oman, and many more. Germany is not even in the top 25% of countries (out of 208) for pre-trial detainees. Do us a favor, get off the internet.