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Dude went hiking, alone, in the wilderness, without basic supplies -- e.g., a compass, a map, a proper GPS, or even a flashlight. If that doesn't sound neglige

Dude went hiking, alone, in the wilderness, without basic supplies -- e.g., a compass, a map, a proper GPS, or even a flashlight. If that doesn't sound negligent to you, well, you're not reading well.

giantg2 4y ago
Was the trail he intended to hike a wilderness trail as well? This can influence what one brings. I'm not bringing a flashlight on a day hike just to carry extra weight if I have one on my phone. A map is good, but shouldn't really be necessary on a well established beginner trail for a day hike. He turned around after he was lost. The real issue is one mistake of choosing the wrong trail due to a name mix up leading to everything else, and then being reckless about the fire. It's easy to use hindsight to say someone was negligent because you would have packed X and they didn't. Yet there are many other people that might call you negligent because you didn't pack everything on their list.
- apple4ever 4y ago
  Exactly. The question is what would a reasonable person did, and as mentioned in the article, many reasonable people fail to take enough water. He made mistakes and it almost cost his life. But he took steps to save his life too. That got out of hand too. But that is the nature of rescues - if everyone did the right thing from the start, we wouldn't need rescues! Punishing him is unjust. It should be a lesson. The money doesn't matter - that's why we pay taxes, so we have someone to save us if we get into trouble.
  - s1artibartfast 4y ago
    I don't think that "everybody does it" is a reasonable excuse when the risks you knowingly or unknowingly undertake materialize. There are a lot of people who speed on highways. If you cause damage or hospitalize someone because you are speeding you are still responsible. >Punishing him is unjust. It should be a lesson. The money doesn't matter - that's why we pay taxes, so we have someone to save us if we get into trouble. The fine isn't for needing rescue or getting lost, that OK. The fine is for starting a forest fire. We dont pay taxes so that everyone can start forest fires without financial consequences.
- ubermonkey 4y ago
  LOL OK.

giantg2 4y ago

Was the trail he intended to hike a wilderness trail as well? This can influence what one brings. I'm not bringing a flashlight on a day hike just to carry extra weight if I have one on my phone. A map is good, but shouldn't really be necessary on a well established beginner trail for a day hike. He turned around after he was lost. The real issue is one mistake of choosing the wrong trail due to a name mix up leading to everything else, and then being reckless about the fire. It's easy to use hindsight to say someone was negligent because you would have packed X and they didn't. Yet there are many other people that might call you negligent because you didn't pack everything on their list.

apple4ever 4y ago
Exactly. The question is what would a reasonable person did, and as mentioned in the article, many reasonable people fail to take enough water. He made mistakes and it almost cost his life. But he took steps to save his life too. That got out of hand too. But that is the nature of rescues - if everyone did the right thing from the start, we wouldn't need rescues! Punishing him is unjust. It should be a lesson. The money doesn't matter - that's why we pay taxes, so we have someone to save us if we get into trouble.
- s1artibartfast 4y ago
  I don't think that "everybody does it" is a reasonable excuse when the risks you knowingly or unknowingly undertake materialize. There are a lot of people who speed on highways. If you cause damage or hospitalize someone because you are speeding you are still responsible. >Punishing him is unjust. It should be a lesson. The money doesn't matter - that's why we pay taxes, so we have someone to save us if we get into trouble. The fine isn't for needing rescue or getting lost, that OK. The fine is for starting a forest fire. We dont pay taxes so that everyone can start forest fires without financial consequences.
ubermonkey 4y ago
LOL OK.