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They have to show they are doing something because they are not doing anything else.
by PM_me_your_math 4y ago
They have to show they are doing something because they are not doing anything else.
- yeahbutiguess 4y agoSeattle is doing tons of stuff. They recently upzoned a huge amount of the city, approved ranked choice voting, approved social housing, expanded rail, fixed a major bridge failure before it failed, and plenty more. Crime rates are down, the city has grown astronomically, etc.
- the_doctah 4y agoI had a feeling your claim about crime rate was untrue so I googled it. It turned out to be wildly untrue. Crime rates are way up. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/seattle-violent-crime-hits-15-year-high-other-takeaways-from-new-report/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/seattl... It's a "soft on crime" blue city. Crime doesn't go down.
- yeahbutiguess 4y agohttps://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/data/is-seattle-dying-not-if-you-look-crime-rates-from-the-80s-and-90s/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/data/is-seattle-dy... Look at these graphs. Crime has consistently fallen. The article you linked is discussing a recent uptick after a stable period of low crime. They've cherry picked the statistics to not show the huge drop in crime over the past 40 years. Yes, crime is down in Seattle.
- the_doctah 4y agoRead this report please. https://www.seattle.gov/documents/Departments/Police/Reports/2022_SPD_CRIME_REPORT_FINAL.pdf https://www.seattle.gov/documents/Departments/Police/Reports...
- yeahbutiguess 4y agoI have. I've lived here for nearly 40 years. I've been active in politics here and I've experience with both the data and the anecdotes. Seattle has less crime then it did 40, 30, and 20 years ago. The past three years were exceptional and the report does indicate increased rates of violent crime. But we had a global pandemic, a contentious election, a spotlight on police brutality, etc. I guess you can make the call, whether you think that's a trend or an anomaly, but when I look at the data I see us having a crime rate half of what it used to be, with an uptick in the most unusual years in a generation.
- the_doctah 4y agoWhat do you think that Seattle is doing right to combat crime?
- zardo 4y agoThey still have cops, courts, and jails in Seattle.
- edgyquant 4y ago[flagged]
- 206lol 4y agoThey supplied data from the state showing the longer trend line. Scroll up a few comments. Both posters are correct, and supplied data. Crime rates are half what they used to be, that's true. Crime rates have also gone up very recently, that's also true. No need to be so hostile.
- giraffe_lady 4y agoRead this report by a group strongly incentivized to and rewarded by a creation of the perception that crime is high, about how high you should perceive crime to be.
- edgyquant 4y agoSocial housing is a horrible idea and it only passed because voter turnout is so low. Seattle is doing a lot of nothing and anyone living here can tell you that.
- phillipcarter 4y agoMetro resident since 2015 here, aside from rising home prices just about everything has gotten better for me. Expanded transit, light rail will be within walking distance of my house in 2 years, better food and restaurants, incredible schools for the future with kids, etc. That doesn't happen because people sit around with their thumbs up their butts.