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Yes, they should have expected shitty behavior from Bezos and Co. My take is that this is a cover mass layoff. Amazon is enforcing this now in the hopes that

by otikik 4y ago

Yes, they should have expected shitty behavior from Bezos and Co. My take is that this is a cover mass layoff. Amazon is enforcing this now in the hopes that people like these folks resign voluntarily. Another mass layoff would make their share price drop again.

eternalban 4y ago
My impression has been (since Musk’s public shitting on Twitter employees, including hinting at not honoring severance agreements) that the collective C-suite has arrived at a “managerial” solution to a variety of HR related matter, including extracting even more value from technical workers. This may have been an emergent phenomena but imo Musk definitely fired the starting gun from a very public platform and with a very magnified voice (since twitter issues were being painted as ‘political’ and not ‘political economy’).
ubermonkey 4y ago
>mass layoff Yeah, could be. They know there will be attrition because of this; the labor market is still really favorable to workers, and there's plenty of remote work. I remember years ago when Garmin relocated its dev team from San Jose to Overland Park, Kansas -- paid relo! -- and lost a ton of devs in the process. Not many folks in San Jose are going to jump at the chance to move to Kansas, so they mostly ended up hiring locals in Kansas. And, shockingly!, the software quality in Garmin devices started plummeting soon after. Weird.
- chollida1 4y ago
  > And, shockingly!, the software quality in Garmin devices started plummeting soon after. Weird Long time Garmin user here Have not noticed a drop j on n software quality. What specific metrics would you put forward to back up your assertion? As the saying goes extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
  - ubermonkey 4y ago
    Got Garmin stock? I'm not in the habit of accepting homework assignments from randos on forums, but: Garmin bike head units went from rock solid and reliable to deeply sketchy and prone to losing sync, losing rides, and just flaking out around the same time (roughly the evolution from the x00 series of devices to the x10, e.g. 500 to 510, 800 to 810, etc). This was well documented in industry press, and a super common observation to make in the cycling groups I ride with. Ten years ago, it was nearly a Garmin monoculture on the rides I'd do. One by one, my pals got pissed off about how flaky the devices were getting, and that led to a drastically reduced Garmin footprint. Now, Wahoo has a demonstrably bigger presence, and Karoo/Hammerhead is creeping in, too. If Garmin had kept their quality up, that wouldn't have happened. GPS tech was theirs to lose.
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by otikik 4y ago

eternalban 4y ago

My impression has been (since Musk’s public shitting on Twitter employees, including hinting at not honoring severance agreements) that the collective C-suite has arrived at a “managerial” solution to a variety of HR related matter, including extracting even more value from technical workers. This may have been an emergent phenomena but imo Musk definitely fired the starting gun from a very public platform and with a very magnified voice (since twitter issues were being painted as ‘political’ and not ‘political economy’).

ubermonkey 4y ago

>mass layoff Yeah, could be. They know there will be attrition because of this; the labor market is still really favorable to workers, and there's plenty of remote work. I remember years ago when Garmin relocated its dev team from San Jose to Overland Park, Kansas -- paid relo! -- and lost a ton of devs in the process. Not many folks in San Jose are going to jump at the chance to move to Kansas, so they mostly ended up hiring locals in Kansas. And, shockingly!, the software quality in Garmin devices started plummeting soon after. Weird.

chollida1 4y ago
> And, shockingly!, the software quality in Garmin devices started plummeting soon after. Weird Long time Garmin user here Have not noticed a drop j on n software quality. What specific metrics would you put forward to back up your assertion? As the saying goes extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
- ubermonkey 4y ago
  Got Garmin stock? I'm not in the habit of accepting homework assignments from randos on forums, but: Garmin bike head units went from rock solid and reliable to deeply sketchy and prone to losing sync, losing rides, and just flaking out around the same time (roughly the evolution from the x00 series of devices to the x10, e.g. 500 to 510, 800 to 810, etc). This was well documented in industry press, and a super common observation to make in the cycling groups I ride with. Ten years ago, it was nearly a Garmin monoculture on the rides I'd do. One by one, my pals got pissed off about how flaky the devices were getting, and that led to a drastically reduced Garmin footprint. Now, Wahoo has a demonstrably bigger presence, and Karoo/Hammerhead is creeping in, too. If Garmin had kept their quality up, that wouldn't have happened. GPS tech was theirs to lose.
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