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I think the question it's meant to make people consider is, "Is this action I'm about to take really the last resort to save my life?" If it's truly "die vs. d

by smeej 4y ago

I think the question it's meant to make people consider is, "Is this action I'm about to take really the last resort to save my life?" If it's truly "die vs. do this and live the rest of my life in debt," yeah. It's worth it to take on the debt. But it'll force another level of creativity out of you before you decide the only way to save your life is to light a whole dead tree on fire and hope for the best.

bryanrasmussen 4y ago
>I think the question it's meant to make people consider is, "Is this action I'm about to take really the last resort to save my life?" it's been my experience that if I push it all the way to the last resort to save my life I am 1. not in a good state to make that decision 2. not in a good state to do the necessary steps to make the last resort work correctly.
- tiahura 4y ago
  Then stop putting yourself in those sorts of situations.
  - bryanrasmussen 4y ago
    I was actually making a comment that was meant not to be applied just to me but to make people consider huh, yeah if I was actually at the point of last resort that's got to be pretty extreme and I too would not be operating at peak efficiency therefore it would be best to start the process of saving my life before it was the last resort or I die, but evidently I have once again been too vague in my preferred communication style.
    - apple4ever 4y ago
      No you were not, you made a great point. Some people just want to do mob justice and punish people so harshly, that they can't even understand that if they were in that situation, they'd likely feel the same as you.
    - smeej 4y ago
      But the point is that you're finding out about this potential consequence now, from the safety of your own home. It'll be hanging over you when you're out, as things get worse and worse. You'll start thinking of alternatives much earlier, because the potential of living the rest of your life in debt if you only find a destructive way to stay alive won't let you wait as long to be thinking about solutions. Nobody's reading this article from a place where they're already at "light a forest fire or die" danger level. This only works as a deterrent and a cautionary tale because people are finding out about it before they're in dire trouble.
paulcole 4y ago
Only if you know about the $300,000 fine, right?
- smeej 4y ago
  This is literally the whole point.
  - paulcole 4y ago
    Yes, exactly. Very few people will be aware of the fine so it’s use as a deterrent will be very limited.
giantg2 4y ago
You likely won't be thinking creativity if you have mental limitations due to medical state. Heat injuries, dehydration, etc can cause mental impairment. My guess is that's why they are focusing so much on him creating his own emergency and focusing on inconsequential things like lack of first aid kits or flashlights - so they rule out a temporary insanity plea.

by smeej 4y ago

bryanrasmussen 4y ago

>I think the question it's meant to make people consider is, "Is this action I'm about to take really the last resort to save my life?" it's been my experience that if I push it all the way to the last resort to save my life I am 1. not in a good state to make that decision 2. not in a good state to do the necessary steps to make the last resort work correctly.

tiahura 4y ago
Then stop putting yourself in those sorts of situations.
- bryanrasmussen 4y ago
  I was actually making a comment that was meant not to be applied just to me but to make people consider huh, yeah if I was actually at the point of last resort that's got to be pretty extreme and I too would not be operating at peak efficiency therefore it would be best to start the process of saving my life before it was the last resort or I die, but evidently I have once again been too vague in my preferred communication style.
  - apple4ever 4y ago
    No you were not, you made a great point. Some people just want to do mob justice and punish people so harshly, that they can't even understand that if they were in that situation, they'd likely feel the same as you.
  - smeej 4y ago
    But the point is that you're finding out about this potential consequence now, from the safety of your own home. It'll be hanging over you when you're out, as things get worse and worse. You'll start thinking of alternatives much earlier, because the potential of living the rest of your life in debt if you only find a destructive way to stay alive won't let you wait as long to be thinking about solutions. Nobody's reading this article from a place where they're already at "light a forest fire or die" danger level. This only works as a deterrent and a cautionary tale because people are finding out about it before they're in dire trouble.

paulcole 4y ago

Only if you know about the $300,000 fine, right?

smeej 4y ago
This is literally the whole point.
- paulcole 4y ago
  Yes, exactly. Very few people will be aware of the fine so it’s use as a deterrent will be very limited.

giantg2 4y ago

You likely won't be thinking creativity if you have mental limitations due to medical state. Heat injuries, dehydration, etc can cause mental impairment. My guess is that's why they are focusing so much on him creating his own emergency and focusing on inconsequential things like lack of first aid kits or flashlights - so they rule out a temporary insanity plea.