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$300,000 for the average person, isn’t a lesson. It’s an albatross around their neck that will be their for perhaps their whole life and cause huge problems for

$300,000 for the average person, isn’t a lesson. It’s an albatross around their neck that will be their for perhaps their whole life and cause huge problems for at the very least decades. May as well make it $300,000,000. I don’t think of that as “justice” so much as “justice porn” so those of us who weren’t fined $300,000 can look and say, “What a great job the system did.”

adql 4y ago
Right but alternative is making people pay for stupidity of some randoms. I don't have problems with socialized healthcare, it's mostly not person's fault they happened to have worse health than others, but this is just compounded effect of multiple stupid decisions in a row
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  > it's mostly not person's fault they happened to have worse health than others How can one come to this conclusion given the trends in people’s weights?
  - gambiting 4y ago
    How can you not, knowing how corporations literally spend billions of dollars a year to make sure people consume whatever unhealthy thing they are making this year? Like, yeah, it's my personal fault for drinking that can of coke, but let's not pretend that billions that Coca-Cola corporation spends on ads and marketing had absolutely nothing to do with it either.
  - newaccount74 4y ago
    Most people (except Christian Bale) don't make a conscious decision to become overweight. As far as I know, there isn't even a consensus why people are getting bigger every decade.
- paulcole 4y ago
  > it's mostly not person's fault they happened to have worse health than others Cigarettes come to mind. You’re fine with penalizing this guy $300,000 for doing something stupid and penalizing society hundreds of millions of dollars for the maliciousness of RJR Nabisco, Philip Morris, etc.
smeej 4y ago
I think the question it's meant to make people consider is, "Is this action I'm about to take really the last resort to save my life?" If it's truly "die vs. do this and live the rest of my life in debt," yeah. It's worth it to take on the debt. But it'll force another level of creativity out of you before you decide the only way to save your life is to light a whole dead tree on fire and hope for the best.
- bryanrasmussen 4y ago
  >I think the question it's meant to make people consider is, "Is this action I'm about to take really the last resort to save my life?" it's been my experience that if I push it all the way to the last resort to save my life I am 1. not in a good state to make that decision 2. not in a good state to do the necessary steps to make the last resort work correctly.
  - tiahura 4y ago
    Then stop putting yourself in those sorts of situations.
    - bryanrasmussen 4y ago
      I was actually making a comment that was meant not to be applied just to me but to make people consider huh, yeah if I was actually at the point of last resort that's got to be pretty extreme and I too would not be operating at peak efficiency therefore it would be best to start the process of saving my life before it was the last resort or I die, but evidently I have once again been too vague in my preferred communication style.
      - apple4ever 4y ago
        No you were not, you made a great point. Some people just want to do mob justice and punish people so harshly, that they can't even understand that if they were in that situation, they'd likely feel the same as you.
      - 4y ago

adql 4y ago

Right but alternative is making people pay for stupidity of some randoms. I don't have problems with socialized healthcare, it's mostly not person's fault they happened to have worse health than others, but this is just compounded effect of multiple stupid decisions in a row

lotsofpulp 4y ago
> it's mostly not person's fault they happened to have worse health than others How can one come to this conclusion given the trends in people’s weights?
- gambiting 4y ago
  How can you not, knowing how corporations literally spend billions of dollars a year to make sure people consume whatever unhealthy thing they are making this year? Like, yeah, it's my personal fault for drinking that can of coke, but let's not pretend that billions that Coca-Cola corporation spends on ads and marketing had absolutely nothing to do with it either.
- newaccount74 4y ago
  Most people (except Christian Bale) don't make a conscious decision to become overweight. As far as I know, there isn't even a consensus why people are getting bigger every decade.
paulcole 4y ago
> it's mostly not person's fault they happened to have worse health than others Cigarettes come to mind. You’re fine with penalizing this guy $300,000 for doing something stupid and penalizing society hundreds of millions of dollars for the maliciousness of RJR Nabisco, Philip Morris, etc.

smeej 4y ago

I think the question it's meant to make people consider is, "Is this action I'm about to take really the last resort to save my life?" If it's truly "die vs. do this and live the rest of my life in debt," yeah. It's worth it to take on the debt. But it'll force another level of creativity out of you before you decide the only way to save your life is to light a whole dead tree on fire and hope for the best.

bryanrasmussen 4y ago
>I think the question it's meant to make people consider is, "Is this action I'm about to take really the last resort to save my life?" it's been my experience that if I push it all the way to the last resort to save my life I am 1. not in a good state to make that decision 2. not in a good state to do the necessary steps to make the last resort work correctly.
- tiahura 4y ago
  Then stop putting yourself in those sorts of situations.
  - bryanrasmussen 4y ago
    I was actually making a comment that was meant not to be applied just to me but to make people consider huh, yeah if I was actually at the point of last resort that's got to be pretty extreme and I too would not be operating at peak efficiency therefore it would be best to start the process of saving my life before it was the last resort or I die, but evidently I have once again been too vague in my preferred communication style.
    - apple4ever 4y ago
      No you were not, you made a great point. Some people just want to do mob justice and punish people so harshly, that they can't even understand that if they were in that situation, they'd likely feel the same as you.
    - 4y ago