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Don’t you have indicators on cars in your country? Here we just put on an indicator to tell the driver behind we intend to reverse into a parking space. If the

Don’t you have indicators on cars in your country? Here we just put on an indicator to tell the driver behind we intend to reverse into a parking space. If they take it anyway, then they’re just an arsehole, but that’s a universal problem.

rad_gruchalski 4y ago
My driving instructor in the UK taught me two things: 1) when you're in the reverse, you are already at the bottom of the food chain so there is no need to indicate, basically do not move until you're 100% certain it safe to do so, 2) when you follow a car, keep your distance, when the car in front of you stops, stop so far that you can see their rear tires so you have enough space to drive around. Based on those two rules when the situation described here happens, there's only one solution: I will stand there in reverse and wait for you to back up if you park in my bumper while I'm willing to reverse into a spot because, f** you, keep your distance, thank you very much. I'm not going to think for you. You think for yourself. Maybe the car in front of you wants to reverse park and that's why they drive so slow...
nulbyte 4y ago
How do you tell the difference between a blinker indicating you intend to reverse into a spot and a blinker indicating you are turning forward to go to the next aisle? You can't indicate reverse until you pass the space, and often it's too late if someone is behind you.
- capableweb 4y ago
  You should leave space between you and the car in front of you (always), at least one car-length, so if you follow this, it's easy to see when someone is blinking>stopping>reversing because when they stop, you haven't blocked their space to reverse in anyways.
  - michaelteter 4y ago
    You must live in a civilized land. What you describe is how things should work, but in practice it's not that way in many countries. I've driven in many countries, and what you describe has only been common (in my experience) in Netherlands. But even there, it doesn't always work. Parallel street parking is very common. The car wanting to reverse into a parallel spot will pull past it, put on the hazard lights, and then back in. Usually cars behind, if they are not already following too closely (which does happen a lot), will stop short to give you space to back in. But even in NL, this is less common in a parking lot that is nearly full. People are circling, desperate for a place to park (since the nearest next alternative could be a long way away), and will absent-mindedly or intentionally swoop into a spot that you just passed by.
    - capableweb 4y ago
      > You must live in a civilized land. As noted elsewhere, my driving experience is in Europe, South America, North America (sans US) and Asia, some places more civilized than others. I've never driven in Netherlands though (closest been Belgium), mostly North, South and East Europe.
- avianlyric 4y ago
  Turn the indicator on as your passing the space, and slow down so you stop partially blocking the space, put your car into reverse, and wait patiently for the person behind you to extract themselves from your rear end.
  - michaelteter 4y ago
    And what about the car behind him? He's now up on your tail, wondering wtf is wrong with you and why are you blocking a spot he wants... The only reliable way to do this is to stop before you pass the spot, have your passenger get out, and then the passenger blocks the road and pretends to give you guidance on how to back in. That makes it obvious, and it also physically prevents them from stealing the spot unless they're comfortable with driving over a human.
    - avianlyric 4y ago
      > And what about the car behind him? He's now up on your tail, wondering wtf is wrong with you and why are you blocking a spot he wants... What about them? Just wait till they bugger off. They’ll figure it out eventually.

rad_gruchalski 4y ago

My driving instructor in the UK taught me two things: 1) when you're in the reverse, you are already at the bottom of the food chain so there is no need to indicate, basically do not move until you're 100% certain it safe to do so, 2) when you follow a car, keep your distance, when the car in front of you stops, stop so far that you can see their rear tires so you have enough space to drive around. Based on those two rules when the situation described here happens, there's only one solution: I will stand there in reverse and wait for you to back up if you park in my bumper while I'm willing to reverse into a spot because, f** you, keep your distance, thank you very much. I'm not going to think for you. You think for yourself. Maybe the car in front of you wants to reverse park and that's why they drive so slow...

nulbyte 4y ago

How do you tell the difference between a blinker indicating you intend to reverse into a spot and a blinker indicating you are turning forward to go to the next aisle? You can't indicate reverse until you pass the space, and often it's too late if someone is behind you.

capableweb 4y ago
You should leave space between you and the car in front of you (always), at least one car-length, so if you follow this, it's easy to see when someone is blinking>stopping>reversing because when they stop, you haven't blocked their space to reverse in anyways.
- michaelteter 4y ago
  You must live in a civilized land. What you describe is how things should work, but in practice it's not that way in many countries. I've driven in many countries, and what you describe has only been common (in my experience) in Netherlands. But even there, it doesn't always work. Parallel street parking is very common. The car wanting to reverse into a parallel spot will pull past it, put on the hazard lights, and then back in. Usually cars behind, if they are not already following too closely (which does happen a lot), will stop short to give you space to back in. But even in NL, this is less common in a parking lot that is nearly full. People are circling, desperate for a place to park (since the nearest next alternative could be a long way away), and will absent-mindedly or intentionally swoop into a spot that you just passed by.
  - capableweb 4y ago
    > You must live in a civilized land. As noted elsewhere, my driving experience is in Europe, South America, North America (sans US) and Asia, some places more civilized than others. I've never driven in Netherlands though (closest been Belgium), mostly North, South and East Europe.
avianlyric 4y ago
Turn the indicator on as your passing the space, and slow down so you stop partially blocking the space, put your car into reverse, and wait patiently for the person behind you to extract themselves from your rear end.
- michaelteter 4y ago
  And what about the car behind him? He's now up on your tail, wondering wtf is wrong with you and why are you blocking a spot he wants... The only reliable way to do this is to stop before you pass the spot, have your passenger get out, and then the passenger blocks the road and pretends to give you guidance on how to back in. That makes it obvious, and it also physically prevents them from stealing the spot unless they're comfortable with driving over a human.
  - avianlyric 4y ago
    > And what about the car behind him? He's now up on your tail, wondering wtf is wrong with you and why are you blocking a spot he wants... What about them? Just wait till they bugger off. They’ll figure it out eventually.