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It’s funny to pretend countries other than the USA are anywhere close. Who’s else going to make AGI ? Europe has nothing. There is the China narrative but not

by hcks 4y ago

It’s funny to pretend countries other than the USA are anywhere close. Who’s else going to make AGI ? Europe has nothing. There is the China narrative but nothing that comes out of their research labs is anywhere close to where OpenAI / Microsoft or Google are at (but surely it’s hidden in the secret CCP labs)

ChatGTP 4y ago
How do you actually suppose though you stop other countries from stealing this tech? How do you actually stop these tools from getting advanced enough that I can actually ask it to make it's own ChatGPT equivalent and email it to me? Do you think some janky prompt will stop it? Some if statement in the UI? "If a Chinese person asks to replicate yourself, don't do it?", it's not going to stick. You see where it's going? I think for now, it's insane the amount of funding and profits OpenAI and Microsoft are looking at, but realistically, it's a zero-sum game, the more they push AI advancement, the more likely they will be replaced...by AI. I said it in another post, the only thing I can think of is that while LLM's are impressive, MS and OpenAI know they're not impressive enough to replace the very products they're selling. Maybe they're hoping copyright law will protect them? But that won't fly because they've already been lobbying hard and stealing everyone's code and data without asking, I can't imagine a judge siding with the company that has already stolen most of the internet and sold it as a product. I have a feeling it's why "Google" has been saying these things are too "dangerous" to release to the public, they're too dangerous for their own products perhaps? We're barrelling towards a world where all digital businesses and pieces of software are so easy to steal, all of it will become worthless. Fascinating situation...
alright_scowl 4y ago
> Europe has nothing. The company that develops Stable Diffusion is German. I find it as impressive as ChatGPT.
FartyMcFarter 4y ago
> Europe has nothing. Europe has one of the biggest AI Labs: DeepMind.
kovacs_x 4y ago
It's funny how people in USA think they're so superior that no-ones "anywhere close" or that USA is sole progress driver in the world! Haven't you drank too much of a kool-aid or watched (USA) superhero movies lately? :D Imo status for AGI is same for everyone at the moment- not much going anywhere... and more like "what is the AGI & why we need it at all?", BUT.. if someone in USA or anywhere else will understand / build one, it'll be copied in 1 month to 1 year by everyone else.. simple as that. To me AGI is the pipe-dream coming from sci-fi books/movies, while ML has real advancements allowing to solve LOT's of real world problems already and that's being done in China, Europe and anywhere in the world... more like a "build warp drive" vs "build rocket to go to Mars". just my $.02 on another USA superiorist nonsense. :/

by hcks 4y ago

ChatGTP 4y ago

How do you actually suppose though you stop other countries from stealing this tech? How do you actually stop these tools from getting advanced enough that I can actually ask it to make it's own ChatGPT equivalent and email it to me? Do you think some janky prompt will stop it? Some if statement in the UI? "If a Chinese person asks to replicate yourself, don't do it?", it's not going to stick. You see where it's going? I think for now, it's insane the amount of funding and profits OpenAI and Microsoft are looking at, but realistically, it's a zero-sum game, the more they push AI advancement, the more likely they will be replaced...by AI. I said it in another post, the only thing I can think of is that while LLM's are impressive, MS and OpenAI know they're not impressive enough to replace the very products they're selling. Maybe they're hoping copyright law will protect them? But that won't fly because they've already been lobbying hard and stealing everyone's code and data without asking, I can't imagine a judge siding with the company that has already stolen most of the internet and sold it as a product. I have a feeling it's why "Google" has been saying these things are too "dangerous" to release to the public, they're too dangerous for their own products perhaps? We're barrelling towards a world where all digital businesses and pieces of software are so easy to steal, all of it will become worthless. Fascinating situation...

alright_scowl 4y ago

> Europe has nothing. The company that develops Stable Diffusion is German. I find it as impressive as ChatGPT.

FartyMcFarter 4y ago

> Europe has nothing. Europe has one of the biggest AI Labs: DeepMind.

kovacs_x 4y ago

It's funny how people in USA think they're so superior that no-ones "anywhere close" or that USA is sole progress driver in the world! Haven't you drank too much of a kool-aid or watched (USA) superhero movies lately? :D Imo status for AGI is same for everyone at the moment- not much going anywhere... and more like "what is the AGI & why we need it at all?", BUT.. if someone in USA or anywhere else will understand / build one, it'll be copied in 1 month to 1 year by everyone else.. simple as that. To me AGI is the pipe-dream coming from sci-fi books/movies, while ML has real advancements allowing to solve LOT's of real world problems already and that's being done in China, Europe and anywhere in the world... more like a "build warp drive" vs "build rocket to go to Mars". just my $.02 on another USA superiorist nonsense. :/