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> This is systems theory 101: you can't fix systems that you can't understand. If the "actual machine learning practitioners" can break down behavior to the ne
by hooande 4y ago
> This is systems theory 101: you can't fix systems that you can't understand.
If the "actual machine learning practitioners" can break down behavior to the neuron level, then I'd say they understand it to some degree.
The reason that many of these problems still exist is because chasing down individual errors is a seductive waste of time. If you have to tell the network "here's how you handle this one pattern and here's how you handle this other one", then you're building an expert system. Yes it's tempting to correct errors as you see them pop up. But it's better to construct a network that can learn from data to handle any situation that you didn't think of specifically.
Building a robust network requires lots of time and data. There will always be edge cases that cannot be fixed individually. The fact that Tesla or anyone else hasn't built a system for X with no embarrassing edge cases yet does not mean that we should go back to coding individual instructions and conditionals line by line.
- darksaints 4y ago> Yes it's tempting to correct errors as you see them pop up. But it's better to construct a network that can learn from data to handle any situation that you didn't think of specifically. “Yes it’s tempting to save and invest your money for your retirement, but it’s better to put your faith in god and he’ll solve all your financial problems, even the ones you didn’t know you’d have.” If the system, with all of its data, can’t solve a common problem that happens every day, how the hell is it supposed to solve a problem so rare that the engineers don’t even know exists?