the parent is not talking about 'LLMs are used just to "abuse copyright"' at all, you made that up. They are not making some vague philosophical claims about al

the parent is not talking about 'LLMs are used just to "abuse copyright"' at all, you made that up. They are not making some vague philosophical claims about all LLMs, they are pointing out a specific fact that ChatGPT (not "LLMs") is training on information that was created by someone else, aka theft. Some sources of their training data have already shut off the access, others may not even be aware that their work is being recycled for Microsoft's and OpenAI's gain. PS I would love to see some informed debate about how is it even possible to lift that much information without any kind of credit or reference to its authors and make a billion-dollar business out of that, but frustratingly everyone is too busy fantasizing how OpenAI is about to kill Google, seems to be a flashier topic...