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The problem isn't that AI fraud is hard to deal with when they're found. The problem is that there's so much of it that the AI fraud itself is acting to exclude

The problem isn't that AI fraud is hard to deal with when they're found. The problem is that there's so much of it that the AI fraud itself is acting to exclude real voices by drowning them.

AnimalMuppet 4y ago
Hmm. Restricting AI would restrict real voices. But unfettered AI also restricts real voices. There is no path that does not restrict real voices. The best we can do (analogous to the welfare fraud case) is maximize the real voices, which in practice is probably going to mean a brutal crackdown on AI content. (It's easier to do AI fraud in volume than it is to do welfare fraud in volume.) Some real, human voices, with valuable things to say, are going to get blocked, and that's bad. But more would be unheard without the crackdown, so we kind of have to do it.
- wussboy 4y ago
  The solution is as obvious as it is effective: take our voices off of the internet. Only face to face can possibly matter or be trusted. Yes, it will slow down the pace at which we hurl ourselves into technological nihilism. But that’s a good thing.
  - a_bonobo 4y ago
    Isn't that the solution they came up with in Dune? The Butlerian Jihad?
    - ghkbrew 4y ago
      Yes, but it but humans have been afraid that machines would replace them since long before Frank Herbert wrote about it. For example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite
      - iskander 4y ago
        Luddites weren't afraid that they would be replaced by machines, they were skilled weavers who had already been replaced by programmable looms. Both their status/role in society and their income were significantly decreased as the available jobs switched from artisanal weaving to operating industrial looms in a factory.
  - kuhewa 4y ago
    It's a huge huge step back. That's like a before telegraph, before semaphore, before printing press step back.
  - onetokeoverthe 4y ago
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  - yencabulator 4y ago
    Surely a scifi short story publisher personally knows and lives near enough good scifi authors that they can just ask their friends to write all the stories, right?

The problem isn't that AI fraud is hard to deal with when they're found. The problem is that there's so much of it that the AI fraud itself is acting to exclude real voices by drowning them.

AnimalMuppet 4y ago

Hmm. Restricting AI would restrict real voices. But unfettered AI also restricts real voices. There is no path that does not restrict real voices. The best we can do (analogous to the welfare fraud case) is maximize the real voices, which in practice is probably going to mean a brutal crackdown on AI content. (It's easier to do AI fraud in volume than it is to do welfare fraud in volume.) Some real, human voices, with valuable things to say, are going to get blocked, and that's bad. But more would be unheard without the crackdown, so we kind of have to do it.

wussboy 4y ago
The solution is as obvious as it is effective: take our voices off of the internet. Only face to face can possibly matter or be trusted. Yes, it will slow down the pace at which we hurl ourselves into technological nihilism. But that’s a good thing.
- a_bonobo 4y ago
  Isn't that the solution they came up with in Dune? The Butlerian Jihad?
  - ghkbrew 4y ago
    Yes, but it but humans have been afraid that machines would replace them since long before Frank Herbert wrote about it. For example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite
    - iskander 4y ago
      Luddites weren't afraid that they would be replaced by machines, they were skilled weavers who had already been replaced by programmable looms. Both their status/role in society and their income were significantly decreased as the available jobs switched from artisanal weaving to operating industrial looms in a factory.
- kuhewa 4y ago
  It's a huge huge step back. That's like a before telegraph, before semaphore, before printing press step back.
- onetokeoverthe 4y ago
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- yencabulator 4y ago
  Surely a scifi short story publisher personally knows and lives near enough good scifi authors that they can just ask their friends to write all the stories, right?