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> Well, you can get a full refund Suppose developers of smart locks make an error, and all smartslock unlock on Fridays. When users ask the Company, they lie a

> Well, you can get a full refund Suppose developers of smart locks make an error, and all smartslock unlock on Fridays. When users ask the Company, they lie and claim their locks are flawless and users are to blame. Millions of houses are robbed, people loose their life possesions, and home robbers kill some grandma. Should the Grandma's family get just a $100 refund (price of the lock)? > There's basically no way you could extract money protected by Googles lawyers army That's defeatist. If thats true, then this whole discussion is pointless. If there are 'nobles' that don't answer to justice, we live in feudalism. Freedom and capitalism are dead.

burnished 4y ago
Please dont make up alarmist analogies to try and support your point. You introduce unnecessary points of confusion with 1) whether your scenario even fits and 2) whether the outcomes even make sense. Stick to the actual situation wherever possible.
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  Alarmist? In Britain we have sent ~800 innocent people to prison because a programming error said they stole money. The software development company testified in court that their software was great, despite many inconsitencies being pointed out. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal I think it should be obvious that a poorly designed product can do much more damage than it costs, both through stolen data and by causing legal action As software intrudes into physical world, the potential for damage will keep growing.
  - dcow 4y ago
    You should read any one of Mark Russinovich's amusing novels on viruses destroying the world. You might be convinced we should stop using any software.
  - burnished 4y ago
    Then use this real example, not hypothetical dead grandmothers.
crashmat 4y ago
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- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  Ah yes, how could I forget:'companies shall not answer for their actions or crimes', Amad Smith, Wealth of Nations, Page 6. Capitalism means system of Justice and democracy and markets. 'guy with most money wins' is not capitalism, it's serf mentality.

burnished 4y ago

Please dont make up alarmist analogies to try and support your point. You introduce unnecessary points of confusion with 1) whether your scenario even fits and 2) whether the outcomes even make sense. Stick to the actual situation wherever possible.

ClumsyPilot 4y ago
Alarmist? In Britain we have sent ~800 innocent people to prison because a programming error said they stole money. The software development company testified in court that their software was great, despite many inconsitencies being pointed out. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal I think it should be obvious that a poorly designed product can do much more damage than it costs, both through stolen data and by causing legal action As software intrudes into physical world, the potential for damage will keep growing.
- dcow 4y ago
  You should read any one of Mark Russinovich's amusing novels on viruses destroying the world. You might be convinced we should stop using any software.
- burnished 4y ago
  Then use this real example, not hypothetical dead grandmothers.

crashmat 4y ago

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ClumsyPilot 4y ago
Ah yes, how could I forget:'companies shall not answer for their actions or crimes', Amad Smith, Wealth of Nations, Page 6. Capitalism means system of Justice and democracy and markets. 'guy with most money wins' is not capitalism, it's serf mentality.