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> There are real world use cases for blockchains The examples you gave are problems created by blockchains.
by itake 4y ago
> There are real world use cases for blockchains
The examples you gave are problems created by blockchains.
- unusualmonkey 4y agoIsn't the irony beautiful? Blockchain is real! You can use it to store USD-like tokens and trade different coins!
- Guthur 4y agoAs real as any math, which is not so much. It's imaginary, just like USD. The lack of link to the physical reality which we all share is in my opinion why all these fiat systems are prone to some form of perversion.
- ntonozzi 4y agoFor the most part I agree, but Storj seems like it is at least attempting to solve a problem not created by blockchain: https://www.storj.io https://www.storj.io.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoStorj, filecoin, and IPFS are all attempts at this problem. They don't work particularly efficiently, though, in comparison with S3 or comparable storage systems. Storage is already a commodity service, so adding a whole load of cryptographic work to prove you're still available is not an optimal thing to add to that commodity.
- Galanwe 4y agoI tend to think the web as we see it today is made on a lot of shortcuts made for the sake of simplicity and performance. There will be no free lunch, if we want something more distributed, reliable, secure, we will need to make compromises on simplicity and performance.
- zwkrt 4y agoLunch can in fact be free if you skip it. I feel market forces will almost always prefer a centralized (I.e., marginally cheaper) solution so long as it is robust enough. I would have to imagine an entire economic and cultural shift to imagine S3 being usurped by a decentralized solution. Sometimes centralization is a benefit because it gives you someone to invoice/sue if it breaks.
- Galanwe 4y agoI agree with you, and that's what makes me sad. The current internet, with all its shortcomings, has created an impossible standard for alternative solutions that would be more secure / free to reach.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoThe problem is that the "freer" alternatives based on blockchains rely on network effects. In other words, they are incompatible with the freedom to choose something else. A freer alternative that does not rely on blockchains would not have this problem.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoCloud storage is already distributed, reliable, and secure. It allows you to do multi-region replication just fine, and the data loss SLOs (14 9's) are actually serious. Even if you are paranoid about security, encrypt with a key you hold before you upload it and you're fine - you need to do this with blockchain storage anyway, because all of the stored data blocks are publicly readable. There's no free lunch of course, you pay for all of these services. It is much cheaper to just use a NAS at home. However, the market provides those services I'm the most efficient form possible, which means that no blockchains are involved in commodity services.
- junofan 4y agoIf AWS suspends my account I’m fucked.
- IThoughtYouGNU 4y ago[dead]
- helf 4y agoPeople actually trust their crap to Storj? That blows my mind.