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People care and should care about what they get rewarded for. If promotions/raises/bonuses are based on the manager's view of your personal work, as is the case
by marcinzm 4y ago
People care and should care about what they get rewarded for. If promotions/raises/bonuses are based on the manager's view of your personal work, as is the case at most companies, then that is exactly what a sane person should focus on. Removing the manager from the standup or adding another layer of a Scrum Master won't change that but merely change how they get that same information. Standup at least provides an equal opportunity for everyone to sell themselves in those cases.
- Pamar 4y agoSo people with better communication skills would get rewarded more than people contributing more on the actual delivery side?
- Scarblac 4y agoHe's not suggesting that's how it should work, he's saying that's how it does work at most places. It's my experience too.
- marcinzm 4y agoAs the other comment said I'm simply noting the unfortunately reality that what matters is rarely actual delivery. Trying to avoid that reality won't make things more tied to delivery but simply more opaque as to what they're tied to. There's exceptions but in my experience those teams don't bother with these types of deep discussions on process. The process is somewhat irrelevant since the expectations are fairly clear and what they will be measured on is also fairly clear.
- darreninthenet 4y agoIf the SM is seen as or becomes a layer between the team and management, they aren't doing their job correctly