Part of the difficulty is that Jeff and Joel weren't in agreement for what it should be. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1003841/how-do-i-move-the-turtle-i

Part of the difficulty is that Jeff and Joel weren't in agreement for what it should be. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1003841/how-do-i-move-the-turtle-in-logo https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1003841/how-do-i-move-th... Note the first revision and its author https://stackoverflow.com/revisions/1003841/1 https://stackoverflow.com/revisions/1003841/1 Then look at https://stackoverflow.com/posts/1003841/revisions https://stackoverflow.com/posts/1003841/revisions (both pages, but the key part is on the most recent one) with the closed, locked, and deleted actions and who did them. The (for lack of better terms) Atwoodian and Spoloskian philosophies of how the site should be run and that fracture continue to this day with (excessively simplified caricatures) some looking to delete everything that isn't good so that they could concentrate on what was left and others trying to fix everything even though it isn't good to start with and a "we'll get around to it" for most of the content. That the fracture hasn't been resolved and Stack Overflow corporate still hasn't really come down and said what they want it to be (though they want more "engagement" so it feels like it will be more Spoloskian - but they don't want the Atwoodians to leave).