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us culture relies on relativistic concepts. one up man ship, if you will. and only when its favorable (consider how much more intense rugby is to american footb

us culture relies on relativistic concepts. one up man ship, if you will. and only when its favorable (consider how much more intense rugby is to american football). i have more examples but no way out

PaulHoule 4y ago
I have a content-based classifier that struggles to learn that I don't want to hear about Arsenal, Chelsea and all that but that I am interested in the NFL and some other sports, not to mention expansion of women's soccer. It might make me fall in love with the game, however, because I have seen how relegation is a high stakes event for teams and the fans https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/feb/18/everton-leeds-premier-league-match-report https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/feb/18/everton-lee... Similarly promotion is an event better than your team winning the Superbowl. MLS in the US, however, is like the NFL in that it has no relegation. Certainly some NFL games are badly mismatched and frequently I wind up wearing Giants gear towards the end of the season because the Giants fans I know don't want to be seen in public with it.
- trynewideas 4y ago
  > not to mention expansion of women's soccer ... It might make me fall in love with the game, however, because I have seen how relegation is a high stakes event for teams and the fans Amusingly, Chelsea's women's coach thinks England's league should look into the US model without pro/rel: https://www.90min.com/posts/emma-hayes-wsl-should-be-open-franchise-league-no-relegation https://www.90min.com/posts/emma-hayes-wsl-should-be-open-fr... England in particular's struggled with pro/rel in the women's game because from a financial sustainability standpoint, there's effectively no place to promote from or relegate to -- if you aren't Liverpool or Man United, promotion can be a financial bullet to the head. And if you're Liverpool, the stakes of relegation are next to nil, but if you're Doncaster, the stakes are utter destruction and demotion past the second and third tiers because of unattainable financial requirements. (Mexico's leagues, men's and women's, have had similar problems with pro/rel.) The US has a similar, more systemic problem on the women's side. Even with new pro second-division leagues starting, our real women's second division is the NCAA, with all the legal baggage that carries.
  - PaulHoule 4y ago
    Definitely pro/rel needs a healthy minor league.

PaulHoule 4y ago

I have a content-based classifier that struggles to learn that I don't want to hear about Arsenal, Chelsea and all that but that I am interested in the NFL and some other sports, not to mention expansion of women's soccer. It might make me fall in love with the game, however, because I have seen how relegation is a high stakes event for teams and the fans https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/feb/18/everton-leeds-premier-league-match-report https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/feb/18/everton-lee... Similarly promotion is an event better than your team winning the Superbowl. MLS in the US, however, is like the NFL in that it has no relegation. Certainly some NFL games are badly mismatched and frequently I wind up wearing Giants gear towards the end of the season because the Giants fans I know don't want to be seen in public with it.

trynewideas 4y ago
> not to mention expansion of women's soccer ... It might make me fall in love with the game, however, because I have seen how relegation is a high stakes event for teams and the fans Amusingly, Chelsea's women's coach thinks England's league should look into the US model without pro/rel: https://www.90min.com/posts/emma-hayes-wsl-should-be-open-franchise-league-no-relegation https://www.90min.com/posts/emma-hayes-wsl-should-be-open-fr... England in particular's struggled with pro/rel in the women's game because from a financial sustainability standpoint, there's effectively no place to promote from or relegate to -- if you aren't Liverpool or Man United, promotion can be a financial bullet to the head. And if you're Liverpool, the stakes of relegation are next to nil, but if you're Doncaster, the stakes are utter destruction and demotion past the second and third tiers because of unattainable financial requirements. (Mexico's leagues, men's and women's, have had similar problems with pro/rel.) The US has a similar, more systemic problem on the women's side. Even with new pro second-division leagues starting, our real women's second division is the NCAA, with all the legal baggage that carries.
- PaulHoule 4y ago
  Definitely pro/rel needs a healthy minor league.