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totally absurd. the constitution is a legal framework, not religious precepts. those outside the US have no duties to the US government when not in its jurisdic

totally absurd. the constitution is a legal framework, not religious precepts. those outside the US have no duties to the US government when not in its jurisdiction and vice versa. of course the federal govt has been pushing against this itself, eg assange. you do not want to live in a world with a universal state.

Joeri 4y ago
I would very much prefer to live in a world with a single state, provided it is a democracy. The current international system is clearly inferior as a means of providing universal well-being than a world government would be. In fact, i don’t see a way to get universal human rights without a global government. Believing such a thing to be impossible or undesirable comes across to me as giving up on the concept of universal human rights.
- nyolfen 4y ago
  there will never be a system with "universal well-being" and this kind of thinking is religiously delusional. the world is made up of many zero-sum systems and resources. someone always has to win, and comparative advantage will always lead to defection.
- midoridensha 4y ago
  I agree with you in principle, but today I think it's completely impossible: too many people really prefer living in authoritarian systems. Even in democratic systems, we've seen many times that people will happily vote for fascists and authoritarians who want to remove their democracy.
phpisthebest 4y ago
I am not sure how my comments relates to yours unless you have completely inverted both my comment and the purpose of the US Constitution. no where in my comment did I state or imply anyone US Citizen or not has any duties to the US government. The US Constution does not impose any duties on any person at all, citizen or not The entire purpose and scope of the US Constitution is the establishment of the US Federal government as a Republic composed of US States. There in limiting the power of this government to a specific list of powers and reserving all other power for the States and the people. As a US Citizen, the US Constitution is not aimed at me, it is aimed at the federal government, many people misunderstand this relationship.

Joeri 4y ago

I would very much prefer to live in a world with a single state, provided it is a democracy. The current international system is clearly inferior as a means of providing universal well-being than a world government would be. In fact, i don’t see a way to get universal human rights without a global government. Believing such a thing to be impossible or undesirable comes across to me as giving up on the concept of universal human rights.

nyolfen 4y ago
there will never be a system with "universal well-being" and this kind of thinking is religiously delusional. the world is made up of many zero-sum systems and resources. someone always has to win, and comparative advantage will always lead to defection.
midoridensha 4y ago
I agree with you in principle, but today I think it's completely impossible: too many people really prefer living in authoritarian systems. Even in democratic systems, we've seen many times that people will happily vote for fascists and authoritarians who want to remove their democracy.

phpisthebest 4y ago

I am not sure how my comments relates to yours unless you have completely inverted both my comment and the purpose of the US Constitution. no where in my comment did I state or imply anyone US Citizen or not has any duties to the US government. The US Constution does not impose any duties on any person at all, citizen or not The entire purpose and scope of the US Constitution is the establishment of the US Federal government as a Republic composed of US States. There in limiting the power of this government to a specific list of powers and reserving all other power for the States and the people. As a US Citizen, the US Constitution is not aimed at me, it is aimed at the federal government, many people misunderstand this relationship.