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Welllll, when you are a cloud for the world's governments and systemically important financial institutions, you have operating functions that keep you being ab

Welllll, when you are a cloud for the world's governments and systemically important financial institutions, you have operating functions that keep you being able to retain those customers. AWS has had issues in the past with employee retention in those types of departments. If there is a theory of RTTO as a form of soft layoffs, it still seems like we have a lot to learn about how that impacts the compliance and security capabilities of companies using such tactics.

Zigurd 4y ago
Re "AWS has had issues in the past with employee retention in those types of departments." Amazon as a whole is the only first tier tech company where people I know wanted to get jobs, and later decided to leave because the work environment was bad.
- wonderwonder 4y ago
  I've always thought of Amazon as a step into Faang. You get a job there, it pays really well. It sucks. You maybe survive 2 years and leave or don't and get a nice severance. Now you have faang on your resume and can go somewhere else. Never thought of it as a long term type place as you are very much not a person but a line item or even worse a hire to fire.
  - l33t233372 4y ago
    Isn’t most of FANG/MAMMAA like like that?
    - wonderwonder 4y ago
      Honestly not sure. I'd never thought it was. Always heard google and Netflix were good places to work. This recession appears to potentially be changing that though
sam0x17 4y ago
> when you are a cloud for the world's governments and systemically important financial institutions, you have operating functions You can do all of that and still have plenty of money left over. Don't forget all the wasted money amazon has sunk into Alexa (recent news is the whole division is failing to turn a profit) and their attempts to dip their toes in video games (New World) which failed spectacularly. Yeah they can afford to do a lot of things better, and it's all a write-off for them either way.
- photon12 4y ago
  Money doesn't matter if you can't attract and retain talent, which is my main point. IDK exactly what you are getting at.
  - wonderwonder 4y ago
    I remember an article a while ago where Amazon execs were expressing concern about blowing through all of the available warehouse talent around their large warehouses because they hired and fired so quickly.
  - sam0x17 4y ago
    I'm saying that Amazon has no excuse for it's inability to improve working conditions. It's able to bleed money elsewhere, it damn well should be bleeding it to the tune of improving workers' conditions and salaries
    - wonderwonder 4y ago
      I think the 2 of you are saying the same thing just in a different way and at each other

Zigurd 4y ago

Re "AWS has had issues in the past with employee retention in those types of departments." Amazon as a whole is the only first tier tech company where people I know wanted to get jobs, and later decided to leave because the work environment was bad.

wonderwonder 4y ago
I've always thought of Amazon as a step into Faang. You get a job there, it pays really well. It sucks. You maybe survive 2 years and leave or don't and get a nice severance. Now you have faang on your resume and can go somewhere else. Never thought of it as a long term type place as you are very much not a person but a line item or even worse a hire to fire.
- l33t233372 4y ago
  Isn’t most of FANG/MAMMAA like like that?
  - wonderwonder 4y ago
    Honestly not sure. I'd never thought it was. Always heard google and Netflix were good places to work. This recession appears to potentially be changing that though

sam0x17 4y ago

> when you are a cloud for the world's governments and systemically important financial institutions, you have operating functions You can do all of that and still have plenty of money left over. Don't forget all the wasted money amazon has sunk into Alexa (recent news is the whole division is failing to turn a profit) and their attempts to dip their toes in video games (New World) which failed spectacularly. Yeah they can afford to do a lot of things better, and it's all a write-off for them either way.

photon12 4y ago
Money doesn't matter if you can't attract and retain talent, which is my main point. IDK exactly what you are getting at.
- wonderwonder 4y ago
  I remember an article a while ago where Amazon execs were expressing concern about blowing through all of the available warehouse talent around their large warehouses because they hired and fired so quickly.
- sam0x17 4y ago
  I'm saying that Amazon has no excuse for it's inability to improve working conditions. It's able to bleed money elsewhere, it damn well should be bleeding it to the tune of improving workers' conditions and salaries
  - wonderwonder 4y ago
    I think the 2 of you are saying the same thing just in a different way and at each other