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Remote work definitely comes down to a company culture issue. For most engineering jobs I would say flexibility is a massive competitive advantage. There are so
by SilverBirch 4y ago
Remote work definitely comes down to a company culture issue. For most engineering jobs I would say flexibility is a massive competitive advantage. There are so many great engineers out there who prefer not to be in the office it's a great talent pool, but needs to be actively managed in order to get the best out of it. Having said that, Amazon comes across as exactly the company that would require you to be in the office, I'd be kind of surprised if many people joined Amazon not expecting an extremely high pressure, highly demanding, strong cultured work enviornment.
- x86x87 4y agoimho Amazon has a big problem with its image and hiring. It is literally impossible to find good developers that want to work for Amazon. Taking advantage of the current market conditions to do this is going to spectacularly backfire once the market recovers.
- bitL 4y agoGiven Meta and Google are slowly turning into another Amazon (e.g. by an influx of Amazon managers bringing their "culture" with them) and Amazon is now paying competitive, I don't think that would be a big medium-term problem for them.
- generalpf 4y agoI worked for a mid-cap tech company that brought in Amazon and Salesforce senior leadership in 2021. The culture immediately eroded as these guys’ penchant for finger-pointing and hustling beyond a reasonable human’s capacity became clear.
- bitL 4y agoTeamBlind today: https://www.teamblind.com/post/Ex-Amazon-managers-are-horrible-and-destroy-every-company-they-touch-KX3sYbLq https://www.teamblind.com/post/Ex-Amazon-managers-are-horrib...
- johnbellone 4y agoIt’s been true for me.
- geodel 4y agoAlso, markets can stay irrational longer than people stay solvent.
- x86x87 4y agoI'm going to tell you what. I still remember the Microsoft layoffs in 2008. I was not impacted but at that point I decided I will never work for Ms again. Amazon is also on my "hell no" list.
- mavelikara 4y agoThey have been able to grow to almost a trillion dollars in market cap, during very competitive hiring market conditions, with those image problems. I will be very surprised if any backfiring, much less a spectacular one, happens.
- x86x87 4y agoIf the growth stops the same tactics stop working.
- base698 4y agoThe company hired and promised whole orgs and teams remote work for the last two years, many in areas with no Amazon offices. Some were tied to offices 3+ hours away on paper, but during recruiting were promised never returned to office. Others have remote only as a condition of their employment. When your recruiter, boss, director, VP are all remote and promising a remote only employment, what are you supposed to think?
- laidoffamazon 4y agoThere's no evidence that remote-only ("Virtual location") employees have to ever go to the office. It's really just people that would have had an office before that had a loose RTO policy since like 2021.
- modoc 4y agoThe issue is that Andy Jassy letter isn't clear on this, or many other specifics, so there's a lot of concern due to lack of clarity.
- hummus_bae 4y ago[dead]
- TigeriusKirk 4y agoThe thing is these big companies don't really need a lot of great talent. They're fine skating by with masses of mediocre talent and a few great ones sprinkled in. So yes, they'll attract fewer great engineers, but it won't matter much.