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The escalation here (moreso than the size/language) is that there appears to be zero indication that this banner is part of the browser chrome (unlike previous

by sf_rob 4y ago

The escalation here (moreso than the size/language) is that there appears to be zero indication that this banner is part of the browser chrome (unlike previous iterations). I believe that it is still technically browser chrome, but the UI is indiscernible.

bombcar 4y ago
There was a good post about how the “red line” got crossed and you can no longer trust anything on the screen to be “from the program” anymore.
- teddyh 4y ago
  • https://textslashplain.com/2017/01/14/the-line-of-death/ https://textslashplain.com/2017/01/14/the-line-of-death/ Discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13400291 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13400291, <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30721728 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30721728> • https://www.theregister.com/2017/01/19/browser_line_of_death/ https://www.theregister.com/2017/01/19/browser_line_of_death... • https://emilymstark.com/2022/12/18/death-to-the-line-of-death.html https://emilymstark.com/2022/12/18/death-to-the-line-of-deat... Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34074966 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34074966
Ajedi32 4y ago
Yeah, this is a huge breach of trust! Ads in the browser would merely be super annoying and unprofessional, ads injected into the content box of a competitor's website is downright scary. What's next? Blocking users from downloading Chrome outright?! Replacing the Chrome installer with a program that extols the virtues of Edge?! Okay, I don't actually believe they would go that far. But if you'd asked me before seeing this article whether they'd even go this far I'd probably have said no, so who even knows at this point? Even if it turns out the misleading nature of this ad was unintentional, that's a pretty egregious oversight, especially since they had to know an ad in this context would be closely scrutinized regardless of how they presented it.
samspenc 4y ago
Ah fascinating, I honestly thought they were injecting HTML on Google's Chrome page, that's what it looked like, and I was wondering how in the world that was legal. Your explanation makes a lot more sense, if it's part of the browser chrome, and only shows up when people visit the Chrome page, there's probably no legal boundaries crossed here or injection into other websites happening. But man does that look like part of the website and injected in there.
- Ajedi32 4y ago
  If it looks indistinguishable from the user's perspective, why does it matter whether it's technically part of the website? The effect is exactly the same.

by sf_rob 4y ago

bombcar 4y ago

There was a good post about how the “red line” got crossed and you can no longer trust anything on the screen to be “from the program” anymore.

teddyh 4y ago
• https://textslashplain.com/2017/01/14/the-line-of-death/ https://textslashplain.com/2017/01/14/the-line-of-death/ Discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13400291 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13400291, <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30721728 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30721728> • https://www.theregister.com/2017/01/19/browser_line_of_death/ https://www.theregister.com/2017/01/19/browser_line_of_death... • https://emilymstark.com/2022/12/18/death-to-the-line-of-death.html https://emilymstark.com/2022/12/18/death-to-the-line-of-deat... Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34074966 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34074966

Ajedi32 4y ago

Yeah, this is a huge breach of trust! Ads in the browser would merely be super annoying and unprofessional, ads injected into the content box of a competitor's website is downright scary. What's next? Blocking users from downloading Chrome outright?! Replacing the Chrome installer with a program that extols the virtues of Edge?! Okay, I don't actually believe they would go that far. But if you'd asked me before seeing this article whether they'd even go this far I'd probably have said no, so who even knows at this point? Even if it turns out the misleading nature of this ad was unintentional, that's a pretty egregious oversight, especially since they had to know an ad in this context would be closely scrutinized regardless of how they presented it.

samspenc 4y ago

Ah fascinating, I honestly thought they were injecting HTML on Google's Chrome page, that's what it looked like, and I was wondering how in the world that was legal. Your explanation makes a lot more sense, if it's part of the browser chrome, and only shows up when people visit the Chrome page, there's probably no legal boundaries crossed here or injection into other websites happening. But man does that look like part of the website and injected in there.

Ajedi32 4y ago
If it looks indistinguishable from the user's perspective, why does it matter whether it's technically part of the website? The effect is exactly the same.