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All of that smoke and no one got sick ? Hard to believe

by jokowueu 4y ago

crazygringo 4y ago
They evacuated people first.
- ballenf 4y ago
  Wasn't the mandatory evacuation order only for a 1-mile radius?
  - crazygringo 4y ago
    How much larger are you suggesting it needed to be, and based on what? Since hot smoke travels upwards, I don't know what making the zone wider would have accomplished.
    - lesuorac 4y ago
      I think the radius of the evacuation zone should be up to the issuer to justify. If you want a 1-mile zone it seems that you should be able to articulate why or else it should just get denied. However, it seems that wikipedia et al don't seem to have a citation as to how 1 mile was picked so it's hard to say if a smaller or larger zone should've been done. Edit: Found a chart from Ohio.gov [1] showing impact areas. It does seem to be much smaller than 1mi. > Since hot smoke travels upwards, I don't know what making the zone wider would have accomplished. I mean if hot air only went up the Earth would have no atmosphere after a sunny day. [1]: https://governor.ohio.gov/media/news-and-media/east-palestine-update-evacuation-area-extended-controlled-release-of-rail-car-contents-planned-for-3-30-pm-02062023 https://governor.ohio.gov/media/news-and-media/east-palestin...
jrockway 4y ago
I don't want to downplay anything that happened here, but if you said a train of dihydrogen monoxide derailed and the vapors were spreading through the community, some number of people would come forward claiming to be sick. Statistically, someone is going to wake up with a cold on the day of the derailment. And the brain is a very powerful drug, if you scare someone with a chemical spill, they can show symptoms regardless of whether or not some chemical is acting on their body. This is a risky comment to make, because it sounds like I am supporting NS's cleanup plan, and I'm not. I'm just saying that people saying they're sick doesn't mean the plan was executed incorrectly.
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All of that smoke and no one got sick ? Hard to believe

crazygringo 4y ago

They evacuated people first.

ballenf 4y ago
Wasn't the mandatory evacuation order only for a 1-mile radius?
- crazygringo 4y ago
  How much larger are you suggesting it needed to be, and based on what? Since hot smoke travels upwards, I don't know what making the zone wider would have accomplished.
  - lesuorac 4y ago
    I think the radius of the evacuation zone should be up to the issuer to justify. If you want a 1-mile zone it seems that you should be able to articulate why or else it should just get denied. However, it seems that wikipedia et al don't seem to have a citation as to how 1 mile was picked so it's hard to say if a smaller or larger zone should've been done. Edit: Found a chart from Ohio.gov [1] showing impact areas. It does seem to be much smaller than 1mi. > Since hot smoke travels upwards, I don't know what making the zone wider would have accomplished. I mean if hot air only went up the Earth would have no atmosphere after a sunny day. [1]: https://governor.ohio.gov/media/news-and-media/east-palestine-update-evacuation-area-extended-controlled-release-of-rail-car-contents-planned-for-3-30-pm-02062023 https://governor.ohio.gov/media/news-and-media/east-palestin...

jrockway 4y ago

I don't want to downplay anything that happened here, but if you said a train of dihydrogen monoxide derailed and the vapors were spreading through the community, some number of people would come forward claiming to be sick. Statistically, someone is going to wake up with a cold on the day of the derailment. And the brain is a very powerful drug, if you scare someone with a chemical spill, they can show symptoms regardless of whether or not some chemical is acting on their body. This is a risky comment to make, because it sounds like I am supporting NS's cleanup plan, and I'm not. I'm just saying that people saying they're sick doesn't mean the plan was executed incorrectly.

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