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> The conclusion is supposed to be that an experience is not a physical fact of the world. I see what you're getting at and mostly agree (hence the Upvote!). B
by 31337Logic 4y ago
> The conclusion is supposed to be that an experience is not a physical fact of the world.
I see what you're getting at and mostly agree (hence the Upvote!). But...
Whether a 1st person qualitative experience is a "physical fact of the world" depends on your level of description. In a sense, it's not an epistemically objective physical fact that I can share with others. However, it is just a brute ontological physical fact of the world that my mind experiences the color red (even if yours doesn't).
This is precisely where we need to clarify "facts of the world". We can't settle this chat until we introduce the notion of subjective vs objective, and epistemic vs ontological.
- tsimionescu 4y agoNote that I personally believe the argument is deeply flawed, and rests on some assumptions about the human mind that may turn out to be false; and that shouldn't be generalized to other potential minds (say, AGI) even if they are true of human minds. I was just explaining what I believe to be the core of the argument.