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I get that technically this is correct (the best kind of correct). But the UX of the site is basically "post a question, get modded to shit" now. I don't thin

I get that technically this is correct (the best kind of correct). But the UX of the site is basically "post a question, get modded to shit" now. I don't think the original author is complaining about the functionality, or even the community (though debatable). I think they're complaining about the UX. And that's not something we can argue with - they think they're posting valid questions, and their experience is that their questions are always rejected. This is true, and it remains true even if technically their questions should be rejected for valid reasons.

HeavyStorm 4y ago
That's a GREAT discussion to be had... SO purpose is to be a kind of encyclopedia, so it makes sense to try to categorize duplicates (eventually fading them into obscurity). But is that the best experience for the user? Is it supposed to serve only readers, or those who are actually asking questions?
chrisan 4y ago
> But the UX of the site is basically "post a question, get modded to shit" now. You are 100% correct. SO clearly has an issue as this comes up time and time again. I wonder if a ChatGPT like front for it would serve everyone better?
- marcus_holmes 4y ago
  Yeah, probably. Even doing the modding in real time would help, I think: "Your question appears similar to these other questions, do they answer your question?" "Your question appears to be a rant, and doesn't actually ask a question. Is this true?" "Your question is easily solved: you have mis-spelled this configuration setting. Would you still like to post it?"
  - Y_Y 4y ago
    Yes to all.
michaelt 4y ago
> But the UX of the site is basically "post a question, get modded to shit" now. I'm sympathetic - but have you ever noticed, when people complain about their questions being closed unfairly, how rarely they provide links to the questions? If I'd posted 5 great questions, they'd all been unfairly closed, and I wanted to convince other people that was the case, I'd be linking to them - why wouldn't I present the primary evidence?
- ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
  Ask, and ye shall receive: [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34722910 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34722910 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34887968 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34887968
  - Izkata 4y ago
    The main post[0] you go on about in there is a badly formatted question: It's not self-contained, and relies entirely on external links. It doesn't surprise me it got close votes. [0] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/75361518/accessing-an-ios-url-scheme-at-runtime https://stackoverflow.com/questions/75361518/accessing-an-io...
    - joshuaissac 4y ago
      > It's not self-contained, and relies entirely on external links. The question does not rely on external links. The links just provide optional additional context (about how to use a custom URL scheme and what DRY is). The question has the ios, xcode and swift tags, so even without the links, it is pretty clear what the asker is looking for.
    - ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
      Hey, no big deal. It's all good. SO has made it clear that they don't want "my kind" participating, so ... I won’t go, where I’m not wanted. Life’s too short. That question was a bit of a "trial balloon." I'd pretty much written SO off. * pop * Problem solved. Just S’s and G’s, might want to take a gander at some of the other (over 100) questions I’ve asked. They are not all perfect, so there’s plenty of ammo.
Too 4y ago
That’s not really fair. The UX of the site is actually very persistent in reminding you how to post a good question and listing suggested duplicates. When posting questions with low reputation you can’t bypass these reminders without clicking accept several times.

HeavyStorm 4y ago

That's a GREAT discussion to be had... SO purpose is to be a kind of encyclopedia, so it makes sense to try to categorize duplicates (eventually fading them into obscurity). But is that the best experience for the user? Is it supposed to serve only readers, or those who are actually asking questions?

chrisan 4y ago

> But the UX of the site is basically "post a question, get modded to shit" now. You are 100% correct. SO clearly has an issue as this comes up time and time again. I wonder if a ChatGPT like front for it would serve everyone better?

marcus_holmes 4y ago
Yeah, probably. Even doing the modding in real time would help, I think: "Your question appears similar to these other questions, do they answer your question?" "Your question appears to be a rant, and doesn't actually ask a question. Is this true?" "Your question is easily solved: you have mis-spelled this configuration setting. Would you still like to post it?"
- Y_Y 4y ago
  Yes to all.

michaelt 4y ago

> But the UX of the site is basically "post a question, get modded to shit" now. I'm sympathetic - but have you ever noticed, when people complain about their questions being closed unfairly, how rarely they provide links to the questions? If I'd posted 5 great questions, they'd all been unfairly closed, and I wanted to convince other people that was the case, I'd be linking to them - why wouldn't I present the primary evidence?

ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
Ask, and ye shall receive: [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34722910 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34722910 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34887968 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34887968
- Izkata 4y ago
  The main post[0] you go on about in there is a badly formatted question: It's not self-contained, and relies entirely on external links. It doesn't surprise me it got close votes. [0] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/75361518/accessing-an-ios-url-scheme-at-runtime https://stackoverflow.com/questions/75361518/accessing-an-io...
  - joshuaissac 4y ago
    > It's not self-contained, and relies entirely on external links. The question does not rely on external links. The links just provide optional additional context (about how to use a custom URL scheme and what DRY is). The question has the ios, xcode and swift tags, so even without the links, it is pretty clear what the asker is looking for.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
    Hey, no big deal. It's all good. SO has made it clear that they don't want "my kind" participating, so ... I won’t go, where I’m not wanted. Life’s too short. That question was a bit of a "trial balloon." I'd pretty much written SO off. * pop * Problem solved. Just S’s and G’s, might want to take a gander at some of the other (over 100) questions I’ve asked. They are not all perfect, so there’s plenty of ammo.

Too 4y ago

That’s not really fair. The UX of the site is actually very persistent in reminding you how to post a good question and listing suggested duplicates. When posting questions with low reputation you can’t bypass these reminders without clicking accept several times.