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You’re just repeating what SO owners say, or aspire to. Why do you agree?

by wahnfrieden 4y ago

nextaccountic 4y ago
How can you not agree that the SO goal is to achieve whatever the owners of SO want it to achieve?
- wahnfrieden 4y ago
  I didn’t disagree with the goal. I question the owner’s stated goal vs the actual behaviors and utility to its audience. So is the goal descriptive or aspirational. If latter then describing the site that way reads more like an ad. Like taking musk‘s statements on what Twitter is “for” at face value
  - watwut 4y ago
    But the stated goal is consistent with actual behavior in case of SO. Musks claims are not consistent with his behavior.
    - wahnfrieden 4y ago
      Inconsistent with community behaviors. Same with musk in that the community’s behaviors can’t be entirely owned by management
rglullis 4y ago
Because it's a reasonable justification. Why don't you agree?
- Someone1234 4y ago
  SO is stagnant directly due to this policy. Often time it is like taking a time-machine back ten years ago or more. For example a lot of JavaScript questions get answered with "use JQuery" even for things now built in, and no new questions can replace them nor is the timestamp on questions meaningful. SO's policy will be the death of SO. Nobody has a reason to participate, it is a super toxic community, and it is out of date. Much like Twitter it is a matter of WHEN something better will replace it, not IF it will.
  - wahnfrieden 4y ago
    It serves the function of a Q&A place to get help, just roughly and against its best intentions (eg a user may aggressively close your Q with some ideological nonsense from the site owners but still link you to another answer)
    - deleted 4y ago
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    - politician 4y ago
      Time travelers preparing to travel to the year 2009 certainly find it invaluable.
fishtoaster 4y ago
What makes you think I agree? I certainly am saying what the SO owners have said. I'm repeating it here because I think it's a useful way to understand why SO is the way it is. As I said, I think people commonly misunderstand and think that SO is doing a bad job of optimizing around "being a good place to ask questions" when they are, instead, optimizing around a different goal entirely.

You’re just repeating what SO owners say, or aspire to. Why do you agree?

nextaccountic 4y ago

How can you not agree that the SO goal is to achieve whatever the owners of SO want it to achieve?

wahnfrieden 4y ago
I didn’t disagree with the goal. I question the owner’s stated goal vs the actual behaviors and utility to its audience. So is the goal descriptive or aspirational. If latter then describing the site that way reads more like an ad. Like taking musk‘s statements on what Twitter is “for” at face value
- watwut 4y ago
  But the stated goal is consistent with actual behavior in case of SO. Musks claims are not consistent with his behavior.
  - wahnfrieden 4y ago
    Inconsistent with community behaviors. Same with musk in that the community’s behaviors can’t be entirely owned by management

rglullis 4y ago

Because it's a reasonable justification. Why don't you agree?

Someone1234 4y ago
SO is stagnant directly due to this policy. Often time it is like taking a time-machine back ten years ago or more. For example a lot of JavaScript questions get answered with "use JQuery" even for things now built in, and no new questions can replace them nor is the timestamp on questions meaningful. SO's policy will be the death of SO. Nobody has a reason to participate, it is a super toxic community, and it is out of date. Much like Twitter it is a matter of WHEN something better will replace it, not IF it will.
- wahnfrieden 4y ago
  It serves the function of a Q&A place to get help, just roughly and against its best intentions (eg a user may aggressively close your Q with some ideological nonsense from the site owners but still link you to another answer)
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - politician 4y ago
    Time travelers preparing to travel to the year 2009 certainly find it invaluable.

fishtoaster 4y ago

What makes you think I agree? I certainly am saying what the SO owners have said. I'm repeating it here because I think it's a useful way to understand why SO is the way it is. As I said, I think people commonly misunderstand and think that SO is doing a bad job of optimizing around "being a good place to ask questions" when they are, instead, optimizing around a different goal entirely.