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Point of order: >>high fructose corn syrup causing diabetes It's just too much sugar. Could be cane sugar, high fructose corn syrup, pure glucose, it doesn't

by moate 4y ago

Point of order: >>high fructose corn syrup causing diabetes It's just too much sugar. Could be cane sugar, high fructose corn syrup, pure glucose, it doesn't matter. There's just too much added sugar in things, we can all stop pretending HFCS is anything other than the cheapest (and therefor most common) type of sugar. If you got "the corporations" to stop using it tomorrow, we'd just have Coke made with cane sugar, and you'd still have the related health issues. /rant

EGreg 4y ago
You buy into this idea that the individual can somehow escape and opt out, like Ted Kazynski opting out of technology and society… Most people can’t, because even the fruits are engineered to have tons of sugar now: https://qz.com/1408469/humans-have-bred-fruits-to-be-so-high-in-sugar-a-zoo-had-to-stop-feeding-them-to-some-animals https://qz.com/1408469/humans-have-bred-fruits-to-be-so-high... You think the uptick of people experiencing obesity and diabetes is because they just got lazy and gluttonous? Also this recently was found https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2021/fructose-promotes-obesity-colorectal-cancer https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2021...
- moate 4y ago
  You're rambling and moving the goalposts. Let's go back to where we started: >>high fructose corn syrup causing diabetes Nothing you just posted refuted anything I said, which was that it's the sugar generally and not HFC specifically and that attempting to blame this specifically on HFC is missing the forest for the trees, so I'm not going to address any new points you made here because they have fuckall to do with what I said. Also, it's a terrible rhetorical technique to tell people what they think in the manner you did but that's neither here nor there.
  - EGreg 4y ago
    I said A causes diabetes You said A is only ONE OF MANY THINGS OF THE SAME TYPE that does And I responded that corporations and governments have put those other things into your food too, genetically modified, and you can’t opt out very easily. Also said that diabetes isn’t the only consequence of too much fructose.
    - moate 4y ago
      You're right, my comment about your rhetorical choices isn't important. It's not on my to judge how well you communicate your message or influence others. You're also right that you're trying to make points that I wasn't talking about and don't care about, and that attempting to correct the record when someone such as yourself decides to pop off about how "they" are ruining things isn't worth my time or energy. Finally, you're right that you can bring up whatever tangential points you want that are correct and put them into a conversation to convince yourself that those were the points you were originally trying to make and I'm wrong. TL;dr - You "Won"! Deuces!

by moate 4y ago

EGreg 4y ago

You buy into this idea that the individual can somehow escape and opt out, like Ted Kazynski opting out of technology and society… Most people can’t, because even the fruits are engineered to have tons of sugar now: https://qz.com/1408469/humans-have-bred-fruits-to-be-so-high-in-sugar-a-zoo-had-to-stop-feeding-them-to-some-animals https://qz.com/1408469/humans-have-bred-fruits-to-be-so-high... You think the uptick of people experiencing obesity and diabetes is because they just got lazy and gluttonous? Also this recently was found https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2021/fructose-promotes-obesity-colorectal-cancer https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2021...

moate 4y ago
You're rambling and moving the goalposts. Let's go back to where we started: >>high fructose corn syrup causing diabetes Nothing you just posted refuted anything I said, which was that it's the sugar generally and not HFC specifically and that attempting to blame this specifically on HFC is missing the forest for the trees, so I'm not going to address any new points you made here because they have fuckall to do with what I said. Also, it's a terrible rhetorical technique to tell people what they think in the manner you did but that's neither here nor there.
- EGreg 4y ago
  I said A causes diabetes You said A is only ONE OF MANY THINGS OF THE SAME TYPE that does And I responded that corporations and governments have put those other things into your food too, genetically modified, and you can’t opt out very easily. Also said that diabetes isn’t the only consequence of too much fructose.
  - moate 4y ago
    You're right, my comment about your rhetorical choices isn't important. It's not on my to judge how well you communicate your message or influence others. You're also right that you're trying to make points that I wasn't talking about and don't care about, and that attempting to correct the record when someone such as yourself decides to pop off about how "they" are ruining things isn't worth my time or energy. Finally, you're right that you can bring up whatever tangential points you want that are correct and put them into a conversation to convince yourself that those were the points you were originally trying to make and I'm wrong. TL;dr - You "Won"! Deuces!