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The killer feature the publishing industry and writers bring to the market is curation. That is curation of the facts, story line for brevity, etc. all things C

by mdmglr 4y ago

The killer feature the publishing industry and writers bring to the market is curation. That is curation of the facts, story line for brevity, etc. all things ChatGPT cannot do.

misnome 4y ago
This also is a problem though because tools like it can be used to DOS this curation - see e.g. todays Clarkesworld issue (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34875781 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34875781) - this can be worked around by only curating from known sources... which I can imagine provides a massive barrier to new people. And of course, if anyone makes something new it'll just be instantly ripped off and redistributed via copyright laundering. It's hard not to view this as enforced enshittification for everyone, all for the benefit of a few quick bucks for massive corporations.
- kthejoker2 4y ago
  Shouldn't there be a "massive barrier" to new people writing checks notes AI-generated children's books? I've read now to 4 kids and the vast majority of children's books are terrible. A few are evocative, imaginative, have memorable characters, interesting, thoughtful messages - but most of them are a waste of paper and time. Most children's books - even the ones more deliberately planned than a ChatGPT textdump - are very lazily conceived and executed.
  - misnome 4y ago
    You should probably check those notes again. I'm saying that one of the easiest and probably most effective responses to this by publishers is to only use known sources e.g. existing authors and people they can vouch for. This would put up a massive barrier for AI-generated books, yes - as intended. But also puts up a massive, massive barrier for finding new _real_ authors, who don't have the connections and might have previously actually had a chance of being published.
- sublinear 4y ago
  Isn't it more like Wyrm Publishing doesn't have the resources to handle this? I'm even suspecting this to be a publicity stunt.
mattferderer 4y ago
With very few exceptions, I have not seen publishers doing that over the past few decades. I see no brevity & the curation of facts is a topic for another day....

by mdmglr 4y ago

The killer feature the publishing industry and writers bring to the market is curation. That is curation of the facts, story line for brevity, etc. all things ChatGPT cannot do.

misnome 4y ago

This also is a problem though because tools like it can be used to DOS this curation - see e.g. todays Clarkesworld issue (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34875781 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34875781) - this can be worked around by only curating from known sources... which I can imagine provides a massive barrier to new people. And of course, if anyone makes something new it'll just be instantly ripped off and redistributed via copyright laundering. It's hard not to view this as enforced enshittification for everyone, all for the benefit of a few quick bucks for massive corporations.

kthejoker2 4y ago
Shouldn't there be a "massive barrier" to new people writing checks notes AI-generated children's books? I've read now to 4 kids and the vast majority of children's books are terrible. A few are evocative, imaginative, have memorable characters, interesting, thoughtful messages - but most of them are a waste of paper and time. Most children's books - even the ones more deliberately planned than a ChatGPT textdump - are very lazily conceived and executed.
- misnome 4y ago
  You should probably check those notes again. I'm saying that one of the easiest and probably most effective responses to this by publishers is to only use known sources e.g. existing authors and people they can vouch for. This would put up a massive barrier for AI-generated books, yes - as intended. But also puts up a massive, massive barrier for finding new _real_ authors, who don't have the connections and might have previously actually had a chance of being published.
sublinear 4y ago
Isn't it more like Wyrm Publishing doesn't have the resources to handle this? I'm even suspecting this to be a publicity stunt.

mattferderer 4y ago

With very few exceptions, I have not seen publishers doing that over the past few decades. I see no brevity & the curation of facts is a topic for another day....