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If you haven't updated the copyright year on your footer, I assume you aren't maintaining your website. It's unimportant but significant.

makeitdouble 4y ago
Doesn’t it become a cargo cult, that needs to be perpetuated even as most people involved understand the original meaning in long gone ? If that’s the sole purpose, a “last updated on” mention somewhere would be a perfect sign they both understand the copyright thing, while satisfying your desire to be reassured.
- npteljes 4y ago
  100% cargo cult. It's just people not bothering to learn every little detail about everything, and the popular shortcut is just to "do what everyone else does". These things have a life on their own, effectively become part of the culture itself, and their original meaning long lost.
- deleted 4y ago
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ozim 4y ago
I put javascript code on page so it automatically updates, you're welcome. My site is not up to date and I am not maintaining it.
- joshmanders 4y ago
  Lol right, OP's comment reminds me of a time I saw a dude arguing with someone on Facebook and his position was that only highly trusted research institutes can have dot org domains and if a website on a dot org domain says something then no matter what anyone else says it has to be the true and correct way. So I registered his <first name><last name>.org and put "<first name> <last name> is an idiot." in just a single <h1> and deployed it. He ended up deleting all his comments and blocking me but holy shit was it glorious. Best $10 I ever wasted.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    A lot of people are way too ready to believe that meaningful gatekeeping exists on the internet and the modern world more generally whether it's dot-org, publishing a book, publishing on Medium, having a slick website, etc.
    - ozim 4y ago
      Fun or maybe not that fun part is - people believe there is meaningful gatekeeping in courts/police enforcement/law. Lets say for most part all goes well because most of the time people want to do the right thing and are not assholes. Well might be that other people in general are not all assholes - just that quite a lot are but not most :)
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    I disagree. That $10 was absolutely not wasted.
mxuribe 4y ago
But i thought that in legal terms, "maintenance" is not a test for validity of copyright claim. For a non-software example: if Disney refused to apply any updates to their art, does that invalidate their copyright claims? I think one test is time of registering said copyright, and at least in the U.S., the mere moment that you publish a work, the clock starts on your copyright claim/holding (assuming there is no prior art). So, nah, i kind think that having art be "maintained" is not needed to be a valid copyrighted material....Of course, i am not a lawyer. ;-)
- JohnFen 4y ago
  This is all in the US... For works made after 1978, copyright begins when the work was created. Updating the date on copyright notices doesn't actually change that, and there's no such thing as a "renewal". For work made before 1978, copyrights can be renewed, but you can't just update a copyright notice and call it "renewed". You actually have to file something with the copyright office. If you want to start the copyright clock over again, you have to change the work enough that it is considered a new copyrightable work. How much of a change that has to be is a bit of a gray area.
  - mxuribe 4y ago
    That's a good clarification; my comments were referring to more modern work such as after 1978.
GoblinSlayer 4y ago
Frequent changes mean his shit doesn't work.
- throwaway892238 4y ago
  ....or that she's still writing blog posts / adding features / fixing bugs

makeitdouble 4y ago

Doesn’t it become a cargo cult, that needs to be perpetuated even as most people involved understand the original meaning in long gone ? If that’s the sole purpose, a “last updated on” mention somewhere would be a perfect sign they both understand the copyright thing, while satisfying your desire to be reassured.

npteljes 4y ago
100% cargo cult. It's just people not bothering to learn every little detail about everything, and the popular shortcut is just to "do what everyone else does". These things have a life on their own, effectively become part of the culture itself, and their original meaning long lost.
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ozim 4y ago

I put javascript code on page so it automatically updates, you're welcome. My site is not up to date and I am not maintaining it.

joshmanders 4y ago
Lol right, OP's comment reminds me of a time I saw a dude arguing with someone on Facebook and his position was that only highly trusted research institutes can have dot org domains and if a website on a dot org domain says something then no matter what anyone else says it has to be the true and correct way. So I registered his <first name><last name>.org and put "<first name> <last name> is an idiot." in just a single <h1> and deployed it. He ended up deleting all his comments and blocking me but holy shit was it glorious. Best $10 I ever wasted.
- ghaff 4y ago
  A lot of people are way too ready to believe that meaningful gatekeeping exists on the internet and the modern world more generally whether it's dot-org, publishing a book, publishing on Medium, having a slick website, etc.
  - ozim 4y ago
    Fun or maybe not that fun part is - people believe there is meaningful gatekeeping in courts/police enforcement/law. Lets say for most part all goes well because most of the time people want to do the right thing and are not assholes. Well might be that other people in general are not all assholes - just that quite a lot are but not most :)
- JohnFen 4y ago
  I disagree. That $10 was absolutely not wasted.

mxuribe 4y ago

But i thought that in legal terms, "maintenance" is not a test for validity of copyright claim. For a non-software example: if Disney refused to apply any updates to their art, does that invalidate their copyright claims? I think one test is time of registering said copyright, and at least in the U.S., the mere moment that you publish a work, the clock starts on your copyright claim/holding (assuming there is no prior art). So, nah, i kind think that having art be "maintained" is not needed to be a valid copyrighted material....Of course, i am not a lawyer. ;-)

JohnFen 4y ago
This is all in the US... For works made after 1978, copyright begins when the work was created. Updating the date on copyright notices doesn't actually change that, and there's no such thing as a "renewal". For work made before 1978, copyrights can be renewed, but you can't just update a copyright notice and call it "renewed". You actually have to file something with the copyright office. If you want to start the copyright clock over again, you have to change the work enough that it is considered a new copyrightable work. How much of a change that has to be is a bit of a gray area.
- mxuribe 4y ago
  That's a good clarification; my comments were referring to more modern work such as after 1978.

GoblinSlayer 4y ago

Frequent changes mean his shit doesn't work.

throwaway892238 4y ago
....or that she's still writing blog posts / adding features / fixing bugs