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I did not know that this is a thing. I mean it's not something I am/should be surprised that is a thing - hell we 'offshore' all sorts of things and the tech is

by Jenk 4y ago

I did not know that this is a thing. I mean it's not something I am/should be surprised that is a thing - hell we 'offshore' all sorts of things and the tech is completely there - but I do have to wonder what safeguards are in place. The picture shows the car without anyone in the driving seat, which I would hope is not what the company selling the service is encouraging (a la Tesla 'Autopilot' still requires an attentive driver to override when necessary) but without any kind of regulation I also wouldn't be surprised if they did.

defrost 4y ago
There's eight years and two billion tonnes moved of quasi autonomous remote mine machinery operation already in the bag - 100 tonne trucks etc operating autonomously with oversight control from 1,200 km away. eg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmCSRg5p7-E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmCSRg5p7-E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bki-SfbzkKQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bki-SfbzkKQ It's not a great leap from there to remote car delivery, etc.
- Jenk 4y ago
  They don't have as much unexpected behaviour to contend with. Navigating busy streets and highways is significantly more prone to an unexpected incident of some kind occuring than those mining setups are, even if the severity of outcome is not as catastrophic in terms of vehicle destruction. No pedestrians or pets to be concerned about for a start, but it's far safer when _everything_ on the road is (semi)autonomous or remotely operated with the proper procedures and guidelines than it is to remotely operate a vehicle in a thick soup of pedestrians, (motor)cyclists, and manually operated vehicles.
  - defrost 4y ago
    Sure, and, of course, there are accidents and there is a mix of autonomous and people operated vehicles on site. The main point here is that there is eight years prior art in real world conditions dealing with 1,000 km + remote driving | oversight with dropped connections and extreme heat, winds, lightning, dust storms, unexpected blockages in roads, etc. That's a foundation that can be built on and extended.

by Jenk 4y ago

defrost 4y ago

There's eight years and two billion tonnes moved of quasi autonomous remote mine machinery operation already in the bag - 100 tonne trucks etc operating autonomously with oversight control from 1,200 km away. eg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmCSRg5p7-E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmCSRg5p7-E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bki-SfbzkKQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bki-SfbzkKQ It's not a great leap from there to remote car delivery, etc.

Jenk 4y ago
They don't have as much unexpected behaviour to contend with. Navigating busy streets and highways is significantly more prone to an unexpected incident of some kind occuring than those mining setups are, even if the severity of outcome is not as catastrophic in terms of vehicle destruction. No pedestrians or pets to be concerned about for a start, but it's far safer when _everything_ on the road is (semi)autonomous or remotely operated with the proper procedures and guidelines than it is to remotely operate a vehicle in a thick soup of pedestrians, (motor)cyclists, and manually operated vehicles.
- defrost 4y ago
  Sure, and, of course, there are accidents and there is a mix of autonomous and people operated vehicles on site. The main point here is that there is eight years prior art in real world conditions dealing with 1,000 km + remote driving | oversight with dropped connections and extreme heat, winds, lightning, dust storms, unexpected blockages in roads, etc. That's a foundation that can be built on and extended.