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This isn't an unreasonable question to ask. There is some evidence that (at least some of) the chemicals in the banned additives can cause health problems at s

This isn't an unreasonable question to ask. There is some evidence that (at least some of) the chemicals in the banned additives can cause health problems at some dosage. There is an expert who is almost certain that those chemicals in food has caused health problems. Neither of those equates to evidence that their use in food does cause health problems. And the opposing experts (the FDA) has said that food additives require evidence of their safety before approval for use in foods. If you found an expert willing to claim it and ran a fearmongering story "Covid vaccines 'almost certainly' making people sick" despite safety requirements from the FDA, I think it would get a very different response here. At the very least calls for actual evidence of the claims would not be down voted. I would be interested in the evidence too. For example presumably there would be a signal in cancer detection rates when potassium bromate was banned in Europe in 1990 if the ban had a significant reduction in its use and if its use caused cancer.

etiennebausson 4y ago
>> If you found an expert willing to claim it and ran a fearmongering story "Covid vaccines 'almost certainly' making people sick" despite safety requirements from the FDA, I think it would get a very different response here. At the very least calls for actual evidence of claims would not be down voted. If his opinion on said vaccine was also accompanied by trade ban in Europe, India and China, he would also see a different response than if it was his claim alone. It's not juste an expert, it's multiple foreign agencies.
- throwawaylinux 4y ago
  Not if the evidence used for the bans was admittedly not based on actual evidence of harm in humans in its use as a food additive but in acute toxicity tests in animals. How do vaccines perform in accute overdose safety in mice, I wonder? In any case OP's question about evidence for the claims in the article is still reasonable IMO.
  - rhaway84773 4y ago
    COVID vaccines have a specific use that nothing else provides. When there was the slightest bit of concern about the J&J vaccines (which turned out to be unfounded), the FDA did ban its usage. The food additives in questions are not saving anyone’s lives even in the best case scenario. They’re only making bread last longer by a day or so.
    - throwawaylinux 4y ago
      There is non-zero risk for any and all the vaccines and they don't ban them. It's a measured and scientific approach that is taken. And cost and availability of food is absolutely of critical importance for peoples' lives.

etiennebausson 4y ago

>> If you found an expert willing to claim it and ran a fearmongering story "Covid vaccines 'almost certainly' making people sick" despite safety requirements from the FDA, I think it would get a very different response here. At the very least calls for actual evidence of claims would not be down voted. If his opinion on said vaccine was also accompanied by trade ban in Europe, India and China, he would also see a different response than if it was his claim alone. It's not juste an expert, it's multiple foreign agencies.

throwawaylinux 4y ago
Not if the evidence used for the bans was admittedly not based on actual evidence of harm in humans in its use as a food additive but in acute toxicity tests in animals. How do vaccines perform in accute overdose safety in mice, I wonder? In any case OP's question about evidence for the claims in the article is still reasonable IMO.
- rhaway84773 4y ago
  COVID vaccines have a specific use that nothing else provides. When there was the slightest bit of concern about the J&J vaccines (which turned out to be unfounded), the FDA did ban its usage. The food additives in questions are not saving anyone’s lives even in the best case scenario. They’re only making bread last longer by a day or so.
  - throwawaylinux 4y ago
    There is non-zero risk for any and all the vaccines and they don't ban them. It's a measured and scientific approach that is taken. And cost and availability of food is absolutely of critical importance for peoples' lives.