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Right, but "If you upgrade the screen, batteries, trackpad, speakers, RAM and SSD and then it's a pretty good laptop" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. A 38

Right, but "If you upgrade the screen, batteries, trackpad, speakers, RAM and SSD and then it's a pretty good laptop" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. A 38-horsepower 1980s Mini 1000 is a fast car, if you install the engine and drivetrain from a Toyota Celica GT-Four.

victorp13 4y ago
Did you... just quote my favourite car of all times, the GT-Four?!
jojobas 4y ago
The best things in life can't be bought ready and require thought and even sacrifice.
- dijit 4y ago
  Ikea furniture requires you to build it. The best beds on the planet are pre-assembled. Not saying the exact thing you're saying isn't true (IE; the best things in life are actually not things but relationships and experiences); but it is categorically untrue that "the best products require you to build them".
  - jojobas 4y ago
    Messing with a few screws and latches is not exactly "building". "The best bed" depends on who's asking, and it would have to be built for you. Similarly, you could hire someone to build a laptop for you if you categorically object. Rather than a bed, a better analogy is a home - even the best ready plan can be improved for a particular family. Apple just doesn't allow that.
    - dijit 4y ago
      At what point is it building then? Assembling could be considered the right term I would suppose, but equally I wouldn't say that the author "assembled" his laptop, since it involves disassembly.
kuschku 4y ago
> isn't exactly a ringing endorsement Why not? Consider it a DIY kit, not a product, and you'll be happy. People build their own IKEA furniture with countless mods applied to it, why not do the same with a laptop? The framework is popular for a reason.
- doubled112 4y ago
  They are popular around here but I'm not sure they're popular in general. I discuss laptops with a fair amount of people in real life and none have heard of the Framework laptop. They do, however, know what a MacBook Pro or ThinkPad is, and some even know they can customize the latter.
Snoozus 4y ago
Binky!
robertlagrant 4y ago
Erm, I believe it's spelled "SillyCar".

victorp13 4y ago

Did you... just quote my favourite car of all times, the GT-Four?!

jojobas 4y ago

The best things in life can't be bought ready and require thought and even sacrifice.

dijit 4y ago
Ikea furniture requires you to build it. The best beds on the planet are pre-assembled. Not saying the exact thing you're saying isn't true (IE; the best things in life are actually not things but relationships and experiences); but it is categorically untrue that "the best products require you to build them".
- jojobas 4y ago
  Messing with a few screws and latches is not exactly "building". "The best bed" depends on who's asking, and it would have to be built for you. Similarly, you could hire someone to build a laptop for you if you categorically object. Rather than a bed, a better analogy is a home - even the best ready plan can be improved for a particular family. Apple just doesn't allow that.
  - dijit 4y ago
    At what point is it building then? Assembling could be considered the right term I would suppose, but equally I wouldn't say that the author "assembled" his laptop, since it involves disassembly.

kuschku 4y ago

> isn't exactly a ringing endorsement Why not? Consider it a DIY kit, not a product, and you'll be happy. People build their own IKEA furniture with countless mods applied to it, why not do the same with a laptop? The framework is popular for a reason.

doubled112 4y ago
They are popular around here but I'm not sure they're popular in general. I discuss laptops with a fair amount of people in real life and none have heard of the Framework laptop. They do, however, know what a MacBook Pro or ThinkPad is, and some even know they can customize the latter.

Snoozus 4y ago

Binky!

robertlagrant 4y ago

Erm, I believe it's spelled "SillyCar".