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The thing that annoys me the most about M1 Macbooks is the lack of gaming ability. Even a basic windows laptop can play games like DOTA, Age of empires etc and

The thing that annoys me the most about M1 Macbooks is the lack of gaming ability. Even a basic windows laptop can play games like DOTA, Age of empires etc and so did the older macbooks. With M1, almost none of my games work.

kylec 4y ago
While this is true, it's not really Apple's fault, most game makers just don't care about making their games Mac compatible. They don't even have to be Apple Silicon compatible, Rosetta does a surprisingly good job making Mac games for Intel playable on M1.
- domh 4y ago
  It annoys me that I have a bunch of games on my Steam account for 32bit only macOS (Half Life 2, Team Fortress 2 etc) that just cannot be played on a modern mac. To be fair, Apple have gone through two CPU architecture changes since I bought them (Intel 32bit -> Intel 64bit -> ARM). Is this Valve's fault for not rebuilding the games, or is it Apple's fault for not making it work through Rosetta?
  - bombolo 4y ago
    Didn't apple also drop opengl support? It's not just a matter of recompiling the same source. It needs platform specific changes. Probably the investment isn't worth it for game makers, since apple might require them to do it all over again next week, potentially.
- sdflhasjd 4y ago
  It is most definitely Apple's fault. There might be a chicken-and-egg problem, but it mostly stems from Apples really poor support for backwards compatibility. There's been a few times when it seems like mac gaming could be making a comeback only for something like 32bit support to get removed. Rosetta will not be around forever, and when it goes, game developers for the most part won't be rebuilding their old games for a new platform. The lack of good high performance graphics also deters "serious" gamers, and gamers are generally trying to get the most performance out of every dollar, which is just antithetical to everything Apple.
- LtWorf 4y ago
  No? Whose fault it was when apple removed the ability to run i386 binaries on CPUs that could run them just fine?
iakov 4y ago
It's really annoying given the fact that hardware is more than capable of running some oldies. Hell there is an official WoW build which runs super well, but no other blizz games are ported.
- icemelt8 4y ago
  Starcraft 2 works very well
KyeRussell 4y ago
You’re dishonestly miscategorising the issue, even if only by implication. It’s not it being a “basic” laptop. It’s about the operating system it’s running.
dontbesquare 4y ago
I've had pretty good luck running most older games via Windows with Parallels on my M1 Macbook Pro. Microsoft now officially supports Windows via Parallels as “an authorized solution” on M1 & M2 Macs. https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/16/23602718/microsoft-windows-11-apple-mac-m1-m2-support-parallels-virtual-machines https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/16/23602718/microsoft-window... https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/options-for-using-windows-11-with-mac-computers-with-apple-m1-and-m2-chips-cd15fd62-9b34-4b78-b0bc-121baa3c568c https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/options-for-usin...
priomsrb 4y ago
I use my M1 pro to play Dota 2 all the time. On medium settings I get between 60-100fps at 1440p. I probably game on it more than my gaming PC and consoles at this point.
suction 4y ago
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kylec 4y ago

While this is true, it's not really Apple's fault, most game makers just don't care about making their games Mac compatible. They don't even have to be Apple Silicon compatible, Rosetta does a surprisingly good job making Mac games for Intel playable on M1.

domh 4y ago
It annoys me that I have a bunch of games on my Steam account for 32bit only macOS (Half Life 2, Team Fortress 2 etc) that just cannot be played on a modern mac. To be fair, Apple have gone through two CPU architecture changes since I bought them (Intel 32bit -> Intel 64bit -> ARM). Is this Valve's fault for not rebuilding the games, or is it Apple's fault for not making it work through Rosetta?
- bombolo 4y ago
  Didn't apple also drop opengl support? It's not just a matter of recompiling the same source. It needs platform specific changes. Probably the investment isn't worth it for game makers, since apple might require them to do it all over again next week, potentially.
sdflhasjd 4y ago
It is most definitely Apple's fault. There might be a chicken-and-egg problem, but it mostly stems from Apples really poor support for backwards compatibility. There's been a few times when it seems like mac gaming could be making a comeback only for something like 32bit support to get removed. Rosetta will not be around forever, and when it goes, game developers for the most part won't be rebuilding their old games for a new platform. The lack of good high performance graphics also deters "serious" gamers, and gamers are generally trying to get the most performance out of every dollar, which is just antithetical to everything Apple.
LtWorf 4y ago
No? Whose fault it was when apple removed the ability to run i386 binaries on CPUs that could run them just fine?

iakov 4y ago

It's really annoying given the fact that hardware is more than capable of running some oldies. Hell there is an official WoW build which runs super well, but no other blizz games are ported.

icemelt8 4y ago
Starcraft 2 works very well

KyeRussell 4y ago

You’re dishonestly miscategorising the issue, even if only by implication. It’s not it being a “basic” laptop. It’s about the operating system it’s running.

dontbesquare 4y ago

I've had pretty good luck running most older games via Windows with Parallels on my M1 Macbook Pro. Microsoft now officially supports Windows via Parallels as “an authorized solution” on M1 & M2 Macs. https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/16/23602718/microsoft-windows-11-apple-mac-m1-m2-support-parallels-virtual-machines https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/16/23602718/microsoft-window... https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/options-for-using-windows-11-with-mac-computers-with-apple-m1-and-m2-chips-cd15fd62-9b34-4b78-b0bc-121baa3c568c https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/options-for-usin...

priomsrb 4y ago

I use my M1 pro to play Dota 2 all the time. On medium settings I get between 60-100fps at 1440p. I probably game on it more than my gaming PC and consoles at this point.

suction 4y ago

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