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Ironically the DSM suggests a narcissist is "A preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love. A belief that he or

Ironically the DSM suggests a narcissist is "A preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love. A belief that he or she is special and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people or institutions. A need for excessive admiration" How times have changed, or rather should that be definitions? Now where does royalty and politicians fit into all of this?

PeterisP 4y ago
> Now where does royalty and politicians fit into all of this? That's simple - the admiration that royalty gets is appropriate admiration for their status; but when someone who isn't royalty wants the same level of admiration, that's a need for excessive admiration.
- hutzlibu 4y ago
  I cannot tell if that was sarcasm, but in case not: so if a king declares, he has "unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty" and is basically a god and wants to worshiped as such, than this is demanding appropriate admiration and not getting laughed at as narcism?
  - dfxm12 4y ago
    It depends how many headsmen that king has, I think.
  - IIAOPSW 4y ago
    There is no truth only power. If he has enough power to enforce his demand, well you best comply while your head is still on your shoulders. From that power the truth of how much admiration is appropriate springs.
etherael 4y ago
They make a profession out of what is typically only a hobby.
schandmasked 4y ago
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scns 4y ago
Maybe that definition is flawed or better incomplete. In my experience narcissistic people react highly allergic to having their flaws shown to them/their flawless self image scratched. They'll do everything do everything to gain a sense of superiority again, when i continued with logically correct argumentation they got enraged and in the end responded with violence. I learned my lesson though, me wanting to be right/winning the argument was an attempt to dominate the other person. Life is way more fun if i get along with others.
- moremetadata 4y ago
  >I learned my lesson though, me wanting to be right/winning the argument was an attempt to dominate the other person. This isnt a Rorschach test. >Life is way more fun if i get along with others Not in my experience it hasnt, but maybe thats the people I attract and forced to work with.

PeterisP 4y ago

> Now where does royalty and politicians fit into all of this? That's simple - the admiration that royalty gets is appropriate admiration for their status; but when someone who isn't royalty wants the same level of admiration, that's a need for excessive admiration.

hutzlibu 4y ago
I cannot tell if that was sarcasm, but in case not: so if a king declares, he has "unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty" and is basically a god and wants to worshiped as such, than this is demanding appropriate admiration and not getting laughed at as narcism?
- dfxm12 4y ago
  It depends how many headsmen that king has, I think.
- IIAOPSW 4y ago
  There is no truth only power. If he has enough power to enforce his demand, well you best comply while your head is still on your shoulders. From that power the truth of how much admiration is appropriate springs.

etherael 4y ago

They make a profession out of what is typically only a hobby.

schandmasked 4y ago

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scns 4y ago

Maybe that definition is flawed or better incomplete. In my experience narcissistic people react highly allergic to having their flaws shown to them/their flawless self image scratched. They'll do everything do everything to gain a sense of superiority again, when i continued with logically correct argumentation they got enraged and in the end responded with violence. I learned my lesson though, me wanting to be right/winning the argument was an attempt to dominate the other person. Life is way more fun if i get along with others.

moremetadata 4y ago
>I learned my lesson though, me wanting to be right/winning the argument was an attempt to dominate the other person. This isnt a Rorschach test. >Life is way more fun if i get along with others Not in my experience it hasnt, but maybe thats the people I attract and forced to work with.