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There's no such thing as "an older generation thing" when it comes to discrimination. The haves are innately aware and will fight to keep what they have versus

There's no such thing as "an older generation thing" when it comes to discrimination. The haves are innately aware and will fight to keep what they have versus the have-nots. We've got plenty of other examples all across Western society and culture, from Britain's royal family to right-wingers actively fighting against the teaching of history in the US.

robertlagrant 4y ago
> right-wingers actively fighting against the teaching of history in the US I don't think this is a fair characterisation. I have never heard of anyone wanting to stop this. If you mean CRT, that is something different, or at least the versions of it that are causing pushback are different.
- AgentOrange1234 4y ago
  There’s a well publicized fight over AP Black History going on right now in Florida. More broadly, books like Lies my Teacher Told Me have pointed to the long history of numerous failings of our history curriculum.
  - robertlagrant 4y ago
    For sure - I think that is a tricky one, as I don't feel I can trust anyone's take on it. I do see some of the activism training vs genuine historical education as being extremely disadvantageous, but also of course that black history needs to be taught well as a significant part of American history.
    - roguecoder 4y ago
      I would argue that the existing state wasn't "genuine historical education": I made it all the way through high school without ever being taught the state I was educated in had outright banned Black residents in its constitution.
      - MisterBastahrd 4y ago
        My high school had our class go across the river multiple times to visit the same plantation house. They would show how pretty the property was, and give a history of the people who owned the property and how important they were. We never got to be anywhere near the slave quarters, and it was never once mentioned that dozens of black people were brutally slaughtered there with their heads put on pikes at the entrance.
- MisterBastahrd 4y ago
  It's absolutely a fair characterization. There has never in the history of the United States been a curriculum containing CRT at the K-12 level because children don't have the background and capacity to understand it. And by bringing it up at all, you're proving that you don't either.

robertlagrant 4y ago

> right-wingers actively fighting against the teaching of history in the US I don't think this is a fair characterisation. I have never heard of anyone wanting to stop this. If you mean CRT, that is something different, or at least the versions of it that are causing pushback are different.

AgentOrange1234 4y ago
There’s a well publicized fight over AP Black History going on right now in Florida. More broadly, books like Lies my Teacher Told Me have pointed to the long history of numerous failings of our history curriculum.
- robertlagrant 4y ago
  For sure - I think that is a tricky one, as I don't feel I can trust anyone's take on it. I do see some of the activism training vs genuine historical education as being extremely disadvantageous, but also of course that black history needs to be taught well as a significant part of American history.
  - roguecoder 4y ago
    I would argue that the existing state wasn't "genuine historical education": I made it all the way through high school without ever being taught the state I was educated in had outright banned Black residents in its constitution.
    - MisterBastahrd 4y ago
      My high school had our class go across the river multiple times to visit the same plantation house. They would show how pretty the property was, and give a history of the people who owned the property and how important they were. We never got to be anywhere near the slave quarters, and it was never once mentioned that dozens of black people were brutally slaughtered there with their heads put on pikes at the entrance.
MisterBastahrd 4y ago
It's absolutely a fair characterization. There has never in the history of the United States been a curriculum containing CRT at the K-12 level because children don't have the background and capacity to understand it. And by bringing it up at all, you're proving that you don't either.