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Comment on the page point to a few GitHub issues for macOS and Linux support. Linux: https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/WebView2Feedback/issues/645#issuecomment-

by mroche 4y ago

Comment on the page point to a few GitHub issues for macOS and Linux support. Linux: https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/WebView2Feedback/issues/645#issuecomment-1426222120 https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/WebView2Feedback/issues/645... > Hey all - We don't currently have a timeline for when we would begin this work. Unfortunately it's very unlikely to be soon. macOS: https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/WebView2Feedback/issues/1314#issuecomment-1377658713 https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/WebView2Feedback/issues/131... > No updates since @ningccn's comment above. We are continuing to make progress on Mac and haven't begun Linux planning yet.

wkat4242 4y ago
I'm surprised they even mention WebView2 for Linux. Because they already deprecated the Linux version of teams and building a PWA instead which runs in the user's browser not in a WebView
- rektide 4y ago
  Well, that actually sounds ok/more than great! These people who trust the Slack app... I dont get it. The native experience is not really better. When I run things on the web, I know there is a lot more trustability, and in the case of many app, the overhead will be lower (which I wish they could fixed with shared lib WebViews, but oh, it's os dependent... maybe you should run the web directly instead of trying to native? (but woe that no one has done good cross-platform webbrowser dynamic lib yet)).
  - shaunsingh0207 4y ago
    I recently switched to linux part-time and I haven't found an electron app thats better than its web PWA counterpart. Discord, slack, and spotify specifically seem to run much better in the browser. On macOS I wouldn't dare run discord in the browser because then I lose quite a few features, but on Linux those features aren't supported at all anyways!
obert 4y ago
if they dont fix it on MacOS and Linux they’ll keep getting bad feedback. The whole point of using web tech is being cross platform, looks like they don’t get it
- foepys 4y ago
  I'm wondering if part of the push to those electron apps is because more young developers know how to use HTML/CSS and JavaScript than there are people who know how to use GDI+, Qt, and so on. Maybe cross-platform support is actually an afterthought.
  - grishka 4y ago
    A lot of decisions in the modern IT industry seem to be based on so-called "developer experience". It doesn't matter that your binary is hundreds of megabytes, it doesn't matter that an IM client takes up a gigabyte of RAM and 10% of CPU just running in the background — what matters is that developers have a "nice" experience. All these problems stem from that. Software developers who actually know what they're doing and ignore fashion aren't as exciting to hire, I guess.
    - agarren 4y ago
      They’re obviously more expensive to hire rather than less exciting. Native cross-platform development for a medium-to-large app is a hell of an investment. On going maintenance and dealing with platform upgrades is costly. Probably super impractical more often than not. I don’t see it boiling down simply to “developer experience”, but I don’t completely disagree on that point. Instead, you leverage what you already have - any modern product is already going to have a web interface. The idea of packaging that interface into a self-contained desktop application with little to no additional effort is just too appealing. Sure, everybody else screws it up when attempting this route, and performance becomes a huge problem, but surely your team will do it right. And besides, webdevs are a dime a dozen compared to C++ guys (and fluent on two or three platforms? Good luck. You’ll pay through the nose the get them and more to keep them.)
  - 4y ago

by mroche 4y ago

wkat4242 4y ago

I'm surprised they even mention WebView2 for Linux. Because they already deprecated the Linux version of teams and building a PWA instead which runs in the user's browser not in a WebView

rektide 4y ago
Well, that actually sounds ok/more than great! These people who trust the Slack app... I dont get it. The native experience is not really better. When I run things on the web, I know there is a lot more trustability, and in the case of many app, the overhead will be lower (which I wish they could fixed with shared lib WebViews, but oh, it's os dependent... maybe you should run the web directly instead of trying to native? (but woe that no one has done good cross-platform webbrowser dynamic lib yet)).
- shaunsingh0207 4y ago
  I recently switched to linux part-time and I haven't found an electron app thats better than its web PWA counterpart. Discord, slack, and spotify specifically seem to run much better in the browser. On macOS I wouldn't dare run discord in the browser because then I lose quite a few features, but on Linux those features aren't supported at all anyways!

obert 4y ago

if they dont fix it on MacOS and Linux they’ll keep getting bad feedback. The whole point of using web tech is being cross platform, looks like they don’t get it

foepys 4y ago
I'm wondering if part of the push to those electron apps is because more young developers know how to use HTML/CSS and JavaScript than there are people who know how to use GDI+, Qt, and so on. Maybe cross-platform support is actually an afterthought.
- grishka 4y ago
  A lot of decisions in the modern IT industry seem to be based on so-called "developer experience". It doesn't matter that your binary is hundreds of megabytes, it doesn't matter that an IM client takes up a gigabyte of RAM and 10% of CPU just running in the background — what matters is that developers have a "nice" experience. All these problems stem from that. Software developers who actually know what they're doing and ignore fashion aren't as exciting to hire, I guess.
  - agarren 4y ago
    They’re obviously more expensive to hire rather than less exciting. Native cross-platform development for a medium-to-large app is a hell of an investment. On going maintenance and dealing with platform upgrades is costly. Probably super impractical more often than not. I don’t see it boiling down simply to “developer experience”, but I don’t completely disagree on that point. Instead, you leverage what you already have - any modern product is already going to have a web interface. The idea of packaging that interface into a self-contained desktop application with little to no additional effort is just too appealing. Sure, everybody else screws it up when attempting this route, and performance becomes a huge problem, but surely your team will do it right. And besides, webdevs are a dime a dozen compared to C++ guys (and fluent on two or three platforms? Good luck. You’ll pay through the nose the get them and more to keep them.)
- 4y ago