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It took me a while to parse your comment, but I am glad I did. I don't know about "unduly" but I'd say that out of all situations, war is probably the one wher
by xyzelement 4y ago
It took me a while to parse your comment, but I am glad I did.
I don't know about "unduly" but I'd say that out of all situations, war is probably the one where we can except the most extreme bias.
War literally means "we are willing to kill and die to win this" - so obviously "lie and spin" is going to happen whenever possible.
- davidgay 4y ago> War literally means "we are willing to kill and die to win this" I think you are overly equating the aggressor with the victim. The victim is more "we are willing to kill and die to avoid having <something> forced on us".
- xyzelement 4y agoSure, "winning" is just short-hand for "avoid having..." you're using. The point is, either way - if you're willing to fight and die for it, you're going to be willing to lie for it. So as someone far away, I have to assume that everything I am seeing is someone's preferred spin on it, and that I have no way to decide what's what.
- pharrington 4y agoBefore the full scale invasion started, Ukraine was repeatedly saying "hey I think Russia's going wage war with us really soon, can you keep an eye on this?" The US and others agreed. Russia said "we're absolutely not going to start a war, and the people saying we're going to war are lying." Then Russia started a war. While there are degrees of uncertainty, we must not, in turn, ignore facts.