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I share the current disdain for "agile" workflows. In particular, I have grown very weary of every example of failure getting met with "they did agile wrong."

by taeric 4y ago

I share the current disdain for "agile" workflows. In particular, I have grown very weary of every example of failure getting met with "they did agile wrong." After enough encounters with it being done in a way that does not bode well, I am forced to start questioning the general ideas. However, I do find the excessive snark against wanting to empower the developers kind of off putting. In particular, zero charity in reading is given to looking at how it was taken up. And there is practically no way that is accurate, either. My personal view is that treating the entire "software" industry as a homogeneous one is the mistake here. From type of product being delivered to capabilities of team doing the delivery, there is a lot of variance out there in what one would expect to work. Worse, thinking that any given other field has "figured it out" is doing a major disservice to the hard work that goes into every field.

Turskarama 4y ago
The problem with this is that agile when done well is actually the best way to build software. Just because people misuse it (the name OR the method) doesn't actually make it bad. And whatever you try to replace it with, you can expect middle management to do that wrong as well.
- crgwbr 4y ago
  Eh, at best agile done well is the best way _we know of now_ to build _some kinds of_ software. I certainly don’t think it’s the best for mission critical software (e.g. someone dies if there’s a bug in this). And even for lower stakes things I’d find it incredibly hard to believe that we’ll never find anything better.
flandish 4y ago
“They did agile wrong” always, when I hear it, makes me chuckle as if someone said “russia did communism wrong, it wasn’t the real…” Agile is middle / project managers doing cultish makework for themselves, to codependent-ly distract from feelings of life-cycle imposter syndrome.
- squalo 4y ago
  I need that last line on a tshirt or bumper sticker
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by taeric 4y ago

Turskarama 4y ago

The problem with this is that agile when done well is actually the best way to build software. Just because people misuse it (the name OR the method) doesn't actually make it bad. And whatever you try to replace it with, you can expect middle management to do that wrong as well.

crgwbr 4y ago
Eh, at best agile done well is the best way _we know of now_ to build _some kinds of_ software. I certainly don’t think it’s the best for mission critical software (e.g. someone dies if there’s a bug in this). And even for lower stakes things I’d find it incredibly hard to believe that we’ll never find anything better.

flandish 4y ago

“They did agile wrong” always, when I hear it, makes me chuckle as if someone said “russia did communism wrong, it wasn’t the real…” Agile is middle / project managers doing cultish makework for themselves, to codependent-ly distract from feelings of life-cycle imposter syndrome.

squalo 4y ago
I need that last line on a tshirt or bumper sticker

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